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YA"T3"T Rant+spoilers.

JoLLyRoGer

JoLLyRoGer

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Ok, before I start let me don my flame suite. Now I ready.

Maybe it's just me, but I thought that T3 was completely hokey. They played out the "Ill be back" with she'll be back, and I'm back, and yadda yadda. Since when was Skynet in the middle of a military compound? It was a civilian reserach facility on top of a hill in T2 that got the shyt bombed out of it if I remember correctly. ( I probably need to watch T2 again to make sure about that last plug)! And did anyone else think that the TX was a step BACKWARDS in technology? T1000 desguised himself as a tile floor for god sakes. So the TX had some kind of Borg gun/saw/flamethrower, etc. But cmon, she got crushed just like the T-101. T-1000 would have just seeped under the door and kept coming! Granted the remote control "hormone" was a cool concept, but that was about the only think the TX had going for it besides a fantastic body and a set of expandable...well not to go off on a tangent here. And what about that big crane truck? I'm sorry but nothing is going to smash a crane arm through all that crap and never slow down. Outriggers deployed or not, gaurentee that truck would have stopped dead in it's tracks before making it through all the phone poles and buildings and crap.

I thought the movie was centered too much around effects and there wasn't enough depth to the story line.
It's just my opinion, but I'm telling friends who haven't seen it to save their money and just wait for the DVD.
They would have been better off letting the story end with T2.

Go ahead and fire back, I want to know if I'm the only one here!
 
The only thing you have that isn't just personal preference is wrong.

Cyberdine systems was destroyed in T2, not Skynet.

Viper GTS
 
agree that the movie lacked some depth, but you didn't really go see the movie for its academy awards consideration, right? But yeah, they did overdo it a bit on the special effects. The "I'll be back" stuff was pretty hokey i thought, though the glasses spoof in the beginning had me rolling.

The thing i didnt like about Arnold (t800, right?) is that he is incredibly stupid for the whole "My CPU is a neeeuuural net process-uh-- a thinking compuutaa" thing. Yes, so he can "think." Then why the hell hasn't he realized yet that small arms fire does absolutely nothing to these advanced model terminators?? Jesus, if i was him, i would have gone immediately to a military base to steal huge weapons. I wouldn't have bothered with freakin hand guns and RPGs. Didn't hear learn that in T2???

The TX was also waaayyy too powerful. Arnold couldn't even touch her. At least make it SOMEWHAT even, god. I didn't understand the whole hybrid liquid metal thing, either. I thought it was a step back because the endoskeleton limited her. And the scene where arnold kills her is somewhat anti climatic. At least in T2 it was cool how arnold shot the T1000 into the molten metal. If all he had to do was blow her up, youd think he could have thought about that MUCH earlier.

Personally, i also thought the tx actress has somewhat of a "male" looking body. Minus the obvious, anyway. Look at her when she shows up naked and it shows her from behind. You'd swear she looked sort of like a small guy. Not a very womanly figure IMO.
 
Originally posted by: DJ Fuji
agree that the movie lacked some depth, but you didn't really go see the movie for its academy awards consideration, right? But yeah, they did overdo it a bit on the special effects. The "I'll be back" stuff was pretty hokey i thought, though the glasses spoof in the beginning had me rolling.

The thing i didnt like about Arnold (t800, right?) is that he is incredibly stupid for the whole "My CPU is a neeeuuural net process-uh-- a thinking compuutaa" thing. Yes, so he can "think." Then why the hell hasn't he realized yet that small arms fire does absolutely nothing to these advanced model terminators?? Jesus, if i was him, i would have gone immediately to a military base to steal huge weapons. I wouldn't have bothered with freakin hand guns and RPGs. Didn't hear learn that in T2???

The TX was also waaayyy too powerful. Arnold couldn't even touch her. At least make it SOMEWHAT even, god. I didn't understand the whole hybrid liquid metal thing, either. I thought it was a step back because the endoskeleton limited her. And the scene where arnold kills her is somewhat anti climatic. At least in T2 it was cool how arnold shot the T1000 into the molten metal. If all he had to do was blow her up, youd think he could have thought about that MUCH earlier.

Personally, i also thought the tx actress has somewhat of a "male" looking body. Minus the obvious, anyway. Look at her when she shows up naked and it shows her from behind. You'd swear she looked sort of like a small guy. Not a very womanly figure IMO.
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About the "didnt he learn that in T2?" - it was a different Terminator. In T2, he knew about the T1000 and what it could do, but he had never fought one before so he didn't know what would work against it. Same in respect to the TX. Weapons were just meant to slow it down anyway.

I agree about the TX though - honestly I was confused about it. I liked how it was liquid metal and normal gunfire didn't slow it down/stop it, but I hated how in the end where Arnold landed the helicoptor on it and cut it in half - that defied the whole point of liquid metal. Especially earlier in the movie where he stopped it and and she/it liquified itself back into form, but a helicoptor landing on it cuts it in half?
 
I walked into this film with no expectations. I even managed to avoid the hype, if there was any. I came out satisfied; it was an enjoyable action flick.

My biggest concern was that Arnold would let me down. He didn't. I was impressed with his performance.

I have three core complaints:

One, I didn't care much for Danes and Stahl. Neither seemed convincing. Stahl, despite his character's history, seemed too relaxed throughout the entire movie, and Danes too easily accepted the tragic events surrounding her. There was never a moment of, "Oh my god, this can't be happening." There was no panic.

Two, the female Terminator, or Terminatrix, might have seemed like the obvious thing to do, but the character didn't really appeal to me. She wasn't menacing enough, and as a result, not very terrifying.

Lastly, my biggest issue with this film was its total and utter lack of tension (this is related to the first two issues I have). The appeal of the first two films was the sense of urgency created by the tension. The theme in this trilogy seems to be the chase; the protagonists running from the Terminator. The first two films had us biting our nails, hoping our heroes would manage to escape the evil machine's grasp.

What happened to the tension? Was it Cameron's absence? Maybe. It was definitely missing from Danes and Stahl's performances, and definitely missing from the presence of the female Terminator.

It was a good action flick. I enjoyed it, but it didn't hook me like T2 did.
 
Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
Originally posted by: DJ Fuji
agree that the movie lacked some depth, but you didn't really go see the movie for its academy awards consideration, right? But yeah, they did overdo it a bit on the special effects. The "I'll be back" stuff was pretty hokey i thought, though the glasses spoof in the beginning had me rolling.

The thing i didnt like about Arnold (t800, right?) is that he is incredibly stupid for the whole "My CPU is a neeeuuural net process-uh-- a thinking compuutaa" thing. Yes, so he can "think." Then why the hell hasn't he realized yet that small arms fire does absolutely nothing to these advanced model terminators?? Jesus, if i was him, i would have gone immediately to a military base to steal huge weapons. I wouldn't have bothered with freakin hand guns and RPGs. Didn't hear learn that in T2???

The TX was also waaayyy too powerful. Arnold couldn't even touch her. At least make it SOMEWHAT even, god. I didn't understand the whole hybrid liquid metal thing, either. I thought it was a step back because the endoskeleton limited her. And the scene where arnold kills her is somewhat anti climatic. At least in T2 it was cool how arnold shot the T1000 into the molten metal. If all he had to do was blow her up, youd think he could have thought about that MUCH earlier.

Personally, i also thought the tx actress has somewhat of a "male" looking body. Minus the obvious, anyway. Look at her when she shows up naked and it shows her from behind. You'd swear she looked sort of like a small guy. Not a very womanly figure IMO.
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About the "didnt he learn that in T2?" - it was a different Terminator. In T2, he knew about the T1000 and what it could do, but he had never fought one before so he didn't know what would work against it. Same in respect to the TX. Weapons were just meant to slow it down anyway.

I agree about the TX though - honestly I was confused about it. I liked how it was liquid metal and normal gunfire didn't slow it down/stop it, but I hated how in the end where Arnold landed the helicoptor on it and cut it in half - that defied the whole point of liquid metal. Especially earlier in the movie where he stopped it and and she/it liquified itself back into form, but a helicoptor landing on it cuts it in half?
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True, it was a different terminator, but STILL. I don't have a "neeeuuural net process-uh-- a thinking compuutaa" and i could have told you that if you shoot at the TX with small arms and she doesnt go down, you use bigger weapons. It's not like he didn't know bigger weapons existed. Jesus if i was him i would have carted around an M2 .50 caliber automatic weapon. At LEAST. Or possibly a canister of liquid nitrogen? The TX had a metal endoskeleton, so she COULD be killed if you broke the endoskeleton.
 
Originally posted by: brigden
I walked into this film with no expectations. I even managed to avoid the hype, if there was any. I came out satisfied; it was an enjoyable action flick.

My biggest concern was that Arnold would let me down. He didn't. I was impressed with his performance.

I have three core complaints:

One, I didn't care much for Danes and Stahl. Neither seemed convincing. Stahl, despite his character's history, seemed too relaxed throughout the entire movie, and Danes too easily accepted the tragic events surrounding her. There was never a moment of, "Oh my god, this can't be happening." There was no panic.

Two, the female Terminator, or Terminatrix, might have seemed like the obvious thing to do, but the character didn't really appeal to me. She wasn't menacing enough, and as a result, not very terrifying.

Lastly, my biggest issue with this film was its total and utter lack of tension (this is related to the first two issues I have). The appeal of the first two films was the sense of urgency created by the tension. The theme in this trilogy seems to be the chase; the protagonists running from the Terminator. The first two films had us biting our nails, hoping our heroes would manage to escape the evil machine's grasp.

What happened to the tension? Was it Cameron's absence? Maybe. It was definitely missing from Danes and Stahl's performances, and definitely missing from the presence of the female Terminator.

It was a good action flick. I enjoyed it, but it didn't hook me like T2 did.
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Have to agree with your comments about the lack of tension in T3. I remember spending most of T2 with my fingers crossed hoping that the heroes would escape. In T3 I had a feeling they would escape somehow, even if it wasn't quite what I expected. Basically it was good, but T2 and T1 were better.
 
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