Ya Bush and friends are real patriots alright.

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: tm37

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: przero
Once and for all - corporations don't pay income tax, consumers do!

Once and for all - workers don't pay taxes, corporations do.

Circular resoning is fun.

yes but only when it is based in fact.

The FACT is that when you buy a product or service from a corperation YOU are also paying the tax.

Corperations use the profits to pay the tax. If you raise corperate tax prices rise you get less for your money and YOU see the tax hike.

Whom do you think is paying you to pay your taxes?
Whos problem is that? You think corporations ar'nt already charging the maxium demand dictates on a product or service? Taxes to high, sorry, go out of business and someone individual or even another corp will borrow and start anew. Fact is corps are individuals under the law just like you or me and should'nt be granted anything special.

Corporations would'nt exist without consumers.

Corporations would'nt exist without banks.

Banks would'nt exist without the FED printing and lending.

See this is fun.


What not many understand it's all fake monopoly money with those in power those smart enough to get people to believe they'll offer better returns getting the lions share of this "money" though bank loans, stock sales, and regualar sales. Everyone almost CAN do this but then we have no workers for actual production of goods and services.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
They sound like smart business people to me.

So tax dodgers and corporations who make their own (illegal) decisions based on the government's tax programs are "smart" businessmen, while people who buy French products are anti-US?

Hah

What kind of jizz spittle is coming out of your ballwasher now? Corporate officers who do illegal things are crooks. Corps. who take advantage of every legal tax loophole to increase their bottom line are smart business people. See the difference fscktard? What I would prefer they did and what is legal are two different things. As far as French products are concerned I have never said that anyone who buys them is anti-US.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&threadid=1010408

Have a read.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
They sound like smart business people to me.

So tax dodgers and corporations who make their own (illegal) decisions based on the government's tax programs are "smart" businessmen, while people who buy French products are anti-US?

Hah

What kind of jizz spittle is coming out of your ballwasher now? Corporate officers who do illegal things are crooks. Corps. who take advantage of every legal tax loophole to increase their bottom line are smart business people. See the difference fscktard? What I would prefer they did and what is legal are two different things. As far as French products are concerned I have never said that anyone who buys them is anti-US.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&threadid=1010408

Have a read.

Stick it up your ass.

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[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: SuperTool
GOP is all for preaching national security with one hand, and undermining our ability to pay for it with another.

The Dems are all of a sudden preaching "fiscal responsibility" regarding deficit spending, yet they do nothing to curb the spending and infact are proposing 80+ billion per year universal health care packages.

Hypocracy goes both ways

CkG

You could pay the 80 million Health care plan 2 times over with the money Bush spent in his little adventure in Iraq.

Not exactly . So far the president only has 100billion in funding for the war, although future occupation costs are bound to be high.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
They sound like smart business people to me.

So tax dodgers and corporations who make their own (illegal) decisions based on the government's tax programs are "smart" businessmen, while people who buy French products are anti-US?

Hah

What kind of jizz spittle is coming out of your ballwasher now? Corporate officers who do illegal things are crooks. Corps. who take advantage of every legal tax loophole to increase their bottom line are smart business people. See the difference fscktard? What I would prefer they did and what is legal are two different things. As far as French products are concerned I have never said that anyone who buys them is anti-US.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&threadid=1010408

Have a read.

Stick it up your ass.

A little ornery today, UQ? How about you take a breather and we continue this after you've taken your medications.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
They sound like smart business people to me.

So tax dodgers and corporations who make their own (illegal) decisions based on the government's tax programs are "smart" businessmen, while people who buy French products are anti-US?

Hah

What kind of jizz spittle is coming out of your ballwasher now? Corporate officers who do illegal things are crooks. Corps. who take advantage of every legal tax loophole to increase their bottom line are smart business people. See the difference fscktard? What I would prefer they did and what is legal are two different things. As far as French products are concerned I have never said that anyone who buys them is anti-US.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&threadid=1010408

Have a read.

Stick it up your ass.

A little ornery today, UQ? How about you take a breather and we continue this after you've taken your medications.

Since you like to preach this: Got something constructive to add to the discussion? Care to follow your own advise?


The people(corps) who are breaking tax law will be caught and punished, if you think the laws aren't tight enough - lobby to get the loopholes closed. Just because something may be immoral in some peoples eyes doesn't make it illegal(unless there is a law to back it up ).

CkG

 

[UltraQuiet]

A little ornery today, UQ? How about you take a breather and we continue this after you've taken your medications.

I'm a lot ornery every day and as I rule I take no meds.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Corporate offshore tax dodges are symbolic of the corporate interests
driving the Bush administration and GOP in their ridiculous economic
policies. Every year, about $70 billion dollars in revenue are lost
from American corporations that have moved their corporate headquarters
or subsidiaries to places like Bermuda, and from wealthy individuals
moving their assets overseas.[2] To get a sense for the size of this
theft -- this is the size of ALL the state budget deficits that are
creating such pain around the nation through cutbacks in school
programs and other essential services.

It's not surprising that many of the worst tax-dodge offenders are
directly linked to the Bush administration and right-wing politicians,
through corporate patronage of family members, personal connections,
and lavish political contributions. Vice President Cheney's company,
Halliburton, is a leader in this kind of tax evasion, even as Cheney
himself continues to receive deferred compensation from the company.[3]

link1

"These companies enjoy America?s many freedoms but don?t want to pay
their fair share to support schools, law enforcement, and homeland
security. They desert the country for Bermuda?s beaches, even as our
young men and women are putting their lives on the line in Iraq?s
deserts," said author, syndicated columnist, and co-founder of The
Bermuda Project, Arianna Huffington. "They are cheating America, and
they are cheating every American taxpayer who plays by the rules."

Link to the Burmuda Project

i'll bet NO democrats ever took ANY money from ANY of these corps, right?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: tm37

yes but only when it is based in fact.

The FACT is that when you buy a product or service from a corperation YOU are also paying the tax.

Corperations use the profits to pay the tax. If you raise corperate tax prices rise you get less for your money and YOU see the tax hike.

actually the deadweight loss associated with a tax is almost never paid entirely by either the consumer or the business.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Banks would'nt exist without the FED printing and lending.

banks existed long before the federal reserve did.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

What not many understand it's all fake monopoly money with those in power those smart enough to get people to believe they'll offer better returns getting the lions share of this "money" though bank loans, stock sales, and regualar sales. Everyone almost CAN do this but then we have no workers for actual production of goods and services.

if everyone is such a good entreprenuer then why do most businesses fail?

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: SuperTool
GOP is all for preaching national security with one hand, and undermining our ability to pay for it with another.

The Dems are all of a sudden preaching "fiscal responsibility" regarding deficit spending, yet they do nothing to curb the spending and infact are proposing 80+ billion per year universal health care packages.

Hypocracy goes both ways

CkG

So you don't disagree that "GOP is all for preaching national security with one hand, and undermining our ability to pay for it with another."
At least I couldn't see that in your response. All I am seeing is some rant about the democrats. Well I got news for you. Democrats aren't in power and the government spending is balooning even without any health care package. Now why is that?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: SuperTool
GOP is all for preaching national security with one hand, and undermining our ability to pay for it with another.

The Dems are all of a sudden preaching "fiscal responsibility" regarding deficit spending, yet they do nothing to curb the spending and infact are proposing 80+ billion per year universal health care packages.

Hypocracy goes both ways

CkG

So you don't disagree that "GOP is all for preaching national security with one hand, and undermining our ability to pay for it with another."
At least I couldn't see that in your response. All I am seeing is some rant about the democrats. Well I got news for you. Democrats aren't in power and the government spending is balooning even without any health care package. Now why is that?

Good observation And if you look at my posts in other threads I do point out our over-spending, which we need to stop. The conclusions you draw are correct at this time, but overspending has been occuring for decades and it isn't ALL either "party's" fault - it is equally both. You posted a Republican bash and I equaled with a Democrat bash - and guess what? Both of us are right(well you are left, but correct none the less). I figured my "hypocracy goes both ways" and the fact that I didn't directly dispute your statement would have been enough for people to figure out that I concur with your assement the the GOP is currently increasing spending in one area without cutting in another.

But to answer it in a somewhat straight fashion:

So you don't disagree that "GOP is all for preaching national security with one hand, and undermining our ability to pay for it with another."

No, I don't disagree that the GOP preaches National Security and spends money on it without making appropriate budget changes.


Clear enough for you? I know it wasn't the exactly the yes or no answer you wanted but your question was rather loaded, so much so that a yes or no answer from me could be both true and a lie.

CkG