XP1900 + HHC-001

[HimeNoHogosha]

I am running an Athlon XP 1900 on a Asus A7V333 with a CoolerMaster HHC-001 HSF. I get idle temps of around 45C. Since I'm not into overclocking or the such, the temps I get are ok by me. But my only problem is that this HSF is so loud. I originally wanted to use a ThermalTake 7+, but for somereason the heatsink did not work with my setup. I thought I just bought a bad thermaltake but after 3 unsuccessful exchanges I switched over to the coolermaster and was successful, except I was stuck with the loud fan. I was thinking of using a 60-80mm adapter with the same HS and buying a 80mm Sunon fan in hopes of maybe solving both the loud fan and maybe cooling my cpu a little more. After reading through the forums, it sounds like using an adapter isn't such a great idea. But I've been looking over online stores and couldn't find any 60mm fan's with an equal output but less noisy than the fan on the HHC-001. I believe TomsHardwareGuide rated the HHC-001 at 62 dBA and CoolerMaster's site rates the HSF at pushing 36CFM and claims it is a great HSF despite the noise. Tweaknews says the HHC-001 pumps out 45 dBA and claims the "heatpipes" do nothing if installed vertically. Any suggestions on what alternatives I have?

 

[godmare]

There's this thing, whenever someone gets around to making it again.
Otherwise I'd check the SK-7 out with a low output NMB or Panaflo L1A.

Check out the For sale/trade forums to dump (or possibly trade for an SK-7??) your screamer Coolermaster.

 

[minendo]

Pick up the SVC GC68 from SVC.com. It will the best $4.99 + shipping you ever spend. I have 4 of them total (2 x xp1700+ and 2x 1800+) and my temps reach ~45-46C under full load. They are quite and you can pick up AS3 from SVC for $4.99/tube also.

 

[Nerdwannabe]

should get the HHC-L61 in 1st place. L61 is the silent version of HHC-001.

Heatpipe DOES WORK in ANY direction. Tweaknews obvious doens't put enough study into heatpipes to understand how it works.

As far as the db rating, each measure method is different, thus you will see complete different results.

 

[HimeNoHogosha]

Sorry I made a mistake in my initial post I actually have a XP 1900. Will the SVC GC68 still be a good HSF? It only blows 32CFM with the attached fan. I thought since the HHC-001 blows 36CFM and has a smaller center, the area where no air is blown is smaller and thus provide better cooling. And having a 80mm fan with a larger dead air zone and less CFM is supposed to be worse?

Is the HHC-L61 the exact same HSF but they just lowered the RPM on the fan from 6800 to 3000? If so, isn't there someway I can lower the RPM to say... 4500RPM and have it be quieter than the 001 but still perform better than the L61?

How about this little guy. Link. Would it be a good idea if I replaced the HHC-001 fan with this one, which provides more CFM than the L61?

 

[HimeNoHogosha]

bump

 

[OulOat]

Several people here uses GC68's with XP2000+, so you have nothing to worry about. Sure, it's not the best hs, but for that price it can't be beat. However, I do suggest getting the GC68 from case-mod instead of SVC. Although many posters like them, my experience with SVC was a terrible one, it took them over 3 weeks to get my order right. I rather pay a buck more to get better service and ontime delivery. You can, and should if you haven't already, read about user experiences with e-stores at reseller ratings. If you don't have thermal paste for the hs yet, pick up some Artic Alumina. Almost the same performance as Artic Silver, at half the price. Also, it's none conductive, so if you are a little messy, you don't have to worry about shorting out anything.

 

[HimeNoHogosha]

hm wow.. bought a 60mm YSTech 24CFM/34dB fan from SVC, installed it, and didn't notice any difference in temperatures, but did notice a LOT of noise reduction compared to the HHC-001 stock fan. YAY! Though I wish my cpu temp was still lower... 48idle, havn't tested fullload temp yet... Can't wait till summer so I can get a job and buy a new case.. Strange though, I thought the HHC-001 heatsink was a really good one, shouldn't my temps be lower? Or does the airflow in my case make that much of a difference?

 

[MatthewF01]

last week i went on down to CompUSA, bought a fan adapter and an Antec 80mm 32cfm LED fan, took off the 60mm from my HHC-001 "Screaming Bitch", and noise is cut down QUITE A BIT! What a joy...

however, my CPU temp was going insane! I have a Chaintech 7NJS Nforce2 mobo, which reads internal AMD Diode temps, and i was up to 70c, from the around 60 i was getting before the mod.

I then realized that I had much more voltage going through my 1800+ TbredA than i needed at 1800mhz, so I bumped it down to 1.675 and now im hitting around 57-59c! Lovely!


Although my best recommendation would probably be to put an adjustable fan on the heatsink. If youre not overclocking, you can just lower the speed to a nice low noise level and still be satisfied with the cooling. From an overclock perspective, you can crank it all the way to be pushing like 48cfm, and STILL BE PUTTING OUT LESS NOISE THAN BEFORE!


Much luck to ya!

 

[godmare]

80mm->60mm fan adapters often times compund complications: they create backpressure, which reduces airflow and produces more noise.

 

[MatthewF01]

ive noticed that i feel pushing AWAY from the fan too, and making slightly more noise than when i ran it out of the assembly.

Is there a way to decrease this backpressure problem? and is it that big a deal?


any better solution? and dont say 'buy a SLK-800'!

I wanna use what ive got, or can buy <$10

 

[godmare]

There's this (which I actually cited earlier in the thread), if you can find it.
The bad thing about the backpressure is that there is less air flowing over your heatsink, not much you can do...
You might try flipping the fan so that it draws air from the heatsink. that should get better airflow and possibly reduce noise. Monitor your temps before and after and see what results you get.

 

[Zap]

For lower noise with good airflow (not necessarily CFM, but much higher pressure) try using a blower. Check out the last six pictures here. It is a Delta blower attached to a cheapie all copper heatsink. The original fan on the heatsink was a YS-tech 8000RPM screamer. It's cooling my overclocked Tualatin nicely. I have a Thermaltake fan speed controller hooked up to it and usually run it on medium. My hard drives are noisier than this blower. These Deltas are not easy to find, but you can easily find comparible Nidec blowers, such as the Gamma 28 (identical size to my Delta) or the Gamma 32. Radio Shack actually sells the Gamma 28 for around $10 or so. Besides the benefit of high pressure (good for putting air between tightly spaced heatsink fins) blowers can put air straight down into the middle of the heatsink, right over the CPU core. This is unlike a traditional fan where the motor is in the middle so that there's a dead spot.

 

[MatthewF01]

whoa Zap thats some pretty heavy-duty stuff. I wouldnt be sure where to start if i did that.

But if theres a fan sitting on a 60-80mm adapter, and its like a big funnel, wouldnt there be a slightly less 'dead zone' near the core? I would think the air would kind of 'tumble down' through the funnel and some would spread over the center.

im wrong right?

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: Zap
For lower noise with good airflow (not necessarily CFM, but much higher pressure) try using a blower. Check out the last six pictures here. It is a Delta blower attached to a cheapie all copper heatsink. The original fan on the heatsink was a YS-tech 8000RPM screamer. It's cooling my overclocked Tualatin nicely. I have a Thermaltake fan speed controller hooked up to it and usually run it on medium. My hard drives are noisier than this blower. These Deltas are not easy to find, but you can easily find comparible Nidec blowers, such as the Gamma 28 (identical size to my Delta) or the Gamma 32. Radio Shack actually sells the Gamma 28 for around $10 or so. Besides the benefit of high pressure (good for putting air between tightly spaced heatsink fins) blowers can put air straight down into the middle of the heatsink, right over the CPU core. This is unlike a traditional fan where the motor is in the middle so that there's a dead spot.

Excellent food for thought. You make good points about sound, albeit subjective, and quite possibly varying from user to user, and about airflow- in that it moves directly over the core. Though it must be granted that heatsinks' roles are to spread the heat

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: MatthewF01
But if theres a fan sitting on a 60-80mm adapter, and its like a big funnel, wouldnt there be a slightly less 'dead zone' near the core? I would think the air would kind of 'tumble down' through the funnel and some would spread over the center.

im wrong right?

Hmm, I would say possibly, but turbulence may become a concern over that. Plus the reduced airflow initially.
Really, if your system is stable and your comfortable with the noise level and temps you have, since you've already implemented the adapter, there's no sense in changing it, maybe just try something else next time?

 

[MatthewF01]

Yea, im just thinking about another fan instead. Im really diggin the whole LED fan thing, i have the side off my case until I order the Chieftec I want.
So I may get an adjustable LED fan, that goes up to like 48cfm or something. More airflow than the stock fan for HHC-001, and still quieter hah!


Thatd do me good, yea?


Im just tryin to think ahead for some heavy Barton 2500+ overclocking! I guess the fact that it doesnt like much voltage is good news for me. It seems that more voltage makes my temp jump now more than an increased frequency!