XP w/SP2: Native search "on drugs"? Not working correctly

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Hi all. I tried posting this to a list, but got no replies so I'm trying it here.
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Hoo boy, here's another one (and more to come). On the SP2 computer every
time I search for something **on a specific drive**, the search is INSISTENT
upon searching ALL drives, hard and optical! It even does it when you try
and search a **CD** for something, and it finds things on the C: hard drive!
Does anyone know how to stop this?

I tried to search for ntdll.dll on the XP CD, and the SP2 computer wouldn't
even find it! It instead found the files on C: drive! I put the CD in my
SP1 PC and it found the files fine on the CD. (I'm having ntdll.dll crashes,
that's why I have copy of the files on the C: drive in more than one area.
That in another post). Why won't SP2 find what's WITHIN a CD? It will find
the i386 folder for example, since that's the name of a folder, but it won't
find files within .cab files for example when I search for "a word or phrase
within a file", which is the only way to find ntdll.dll. I'm using "classic
search").
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Here's something else I just noticed, it won't find sub files either! Like I
said above, it will find the i386 folder if you search for it, but when I try
to search for "default" (which is the first file in the i386 folder), it
won't find it either....at least not on the CD. It shows it in the
C:/Documents and settings/~~/CD burning/i386 folder!
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I believe I may have found out what's going on with this search issue above,
but WHY, I have NO idea or see how it's possible.

Every CD I place in the CDROM drive is somehow being "added to some kind of
CD burning cache" on the C: drive in the folder mentioned in the email above!
I placed another CD in the drive other than the XP CD. I opened a folder in
the root directory (a sub folder) then opened a "Readme" file and found
something specific, then I searched for that specific thing by right clicking
the CDROM drive icon and "Search", and put the words in the "A word or phrase
in the file" area.

Ok, it found the Readme file, but it says the location where it was found was
(get this)...
C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Local Settings\Application
Data\Microsoft\CD Burning\then the correct **FOLDER** where the Readme file
is located, but NOT on the CDROM, in the folder on the C: drive!! But, it's
the SAME folder NAME!

How the heck are the files on a CD being placed on the HD just by SEARCHING
the CDROM drive??????? When I right click the found file and click "open
containing folder" it goes to that exact location mentioned above on the C:
drive! Yet, the status bar at the bottom of the search window gives the
CDROM DRIVE PATH where the file is really located!! However, when I try and
DELETE the file in the location mentioned above on the HD, it says "cannot
delete, files on this CD are read only" !!! What is going on here?? Why is
the search showing the location on the HD instead of the CDROM drive?? Can
someone on SP2 please verify if this is "normal" behavior for SP2? I
certainly hope not. If not, then might anyone know how to fix this? This
happens on "Classic" search AND the default XP search layout.
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I appreciate any info.
Thanks,
-Clint

 

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I found out more about this issue, and the fix:

Can someone please tell me if you have your CDRW drive set to "enable recording on this drive"? This is
for the Native XP burning app (right click the CDRW drive in "My Computer", "recording" tab, and you'll
see the box there). Well, I DO have that box checked on my SP1 PC and like I mentioned I don't have
this problem with it! I UNchecked that box for the CDRW drive on the SP2 PC, and now the search
works as it should! Obviously, on SP2, M$ screwed things up when you check that box mentioned
above in relation to searching CD's! I hope other's is set this way, yet does not have this problem, so
that would mean it's just on this PC. IF not, I can't deal with that on SP2.

Strange thing is, when I nav to that CD Burning folder.....it's EMPTY! Yet, all the files show up in it in a
search! (When that box is checked).

I just found this info, which is BS:
http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBK/tip5400/rh5485.htm
since like I said, this doesn't happen on my SP1 computer. Plus, if you uncheck that box you'll no longer
be able to record on the CDRW drive via the XP burning app, right?

Hmmm, WRONG. I just unchecked that box, and as strange as it sounds, I can
still record to the CDRW drive, WITHOUT having to turn on Adaptec/Roxio! How
is this possible?

I don't know if this is the case if Roxio ECDC is NOT installed as well. At
any rate, in this particular case, it would seem the problem has solved
itself. I can uncheck that box mentioned above, have the search function act
as it should, and still be able to record to the CD even with no ECDC or DCD
by Roxio even running. You can eject the CDR by right clicking the icon and
"Eject". SP2 users may want to make a note of that. If I had to guess,
I'd say that maybe SP2 integrates 3rd party burning software into the XP
shell?

I restarted, and verified this is the case. It obviously MUST incorporate
Roxio/Adaptec ECDC into the Native XP burning app/Shell since the Native XP
CD burning app cannot delete files from a CDR disk, and I CAN delete from the
CDR media, again, WITHOUT Roxio even running. Also when you eject, there is
still no Roxio "eject CD" dialog, which is exactly how the Native XP burning
app works. Apparently, it is ejected to read, (and with further sessions
capable), on any other CDRW drive (I would guess as long as Roxio is
installed). Note that this is with CDR media that was formatted using Roxio
DCD. This is a definite plus for SP2 I'm happy to say. I verified it again
by using a fresh CDR (on the SP2 PC), and I realized the CDR does NOT
even have to be formatted by Roxio! This is another plus. I put the CDR
media in, it opens, and I can immediately start to drag files to the media.
When I'm completed, I eject the CD via either the icon, OR the button on
the CDRW drive. I can put the CD in the CDRW drive of my SP1 PC, and
it sees the file on the CDR. The disk however is NOT readable for some
reason in a cdROM drive! So, now it's hard to say if what's going on here
is Roxio, or the Native XP burning software. It appears, neither, since the
CDR media won't read in a CDROM drive...maybe more so Roxio, since
media WILL read in a CDROM drive when recorded by the TYPICAL XP
Native burning 'ware.

I also noted the CDR created by the SP2 PC can be placed in the CDRW drive
of the SP1 PC, and files on the CDR can also be deleted there. So, SP2 is
apparently doing something new to the media that will allow files on CDR
media to be deleted even on SP1 computers. However on the SP1 computer,
when you try and add files to that CD, it uses the OLD XP burning method of
putting files in a temp folder, and you have to click the link "Write these
files to CD" in order for them to burn to the CD....which DOES NOT WORK.
Apparently one can DELETE from the CDR on an SP1 PC, but not ADD to
the CDR.

It gets better. If you need the CDR disk to be readable in a regular CDROM
drive, I just verified that you can place this above created CD in the SP2
PC, then execute the Roxio DCD, right click the icon in the system tray,
and "eject" and low and behold THIS ejected CD can then be read on a regular
CDROM drive. Quite nice. Furthermore, you can take this CDR and add to
it AGAIN, WITHOUT having to open and run DCD on the SP2 PC! I closed
out of DCD, put the CDR back in the drive, and dragged a file to it with no
problem, and it's back to the previous method of that new file being able to
be read in the CDRW drive on the SP1 PC. If you then take that CDR and
place it in the CDROM drive, the old file that was readable still is, but the
newly created file is not, however it CAN be readable by ejecting it again
using DCD on the SP2 PC.

So here's the bottom line: totally seamless integration of a 3rd party CD
burning app (Roxio) with XP SP2, WITHOUT the need to even execute the
software (until you want to read the CDR in a CDROM drive). Unlike Roxio
alone, no need to format the CDR as in Roxio, SP2 does it like it normally
did on SP1; with one exception and that is you can delete files on CDR media.
*CDR in CDRW drive, start copying immediately without the execution of any
software to format nor to copy. Remove the CDR just as you would any
pressed CD in any optical drive, no need to execute Roxio to eject the CD
(as long as you'll read it again in a CDRW drive). Should the time arise
when you need to read the CDR in a CDROM drive, execute DCD and
"eject" via the typical Roxio method. If you need to write to the CDR
again, it's back to *.

A few notes: on my SP2 PC, that box mentioned above is unchecked, but it's
checked on my SP1 PC. Unchecking that box on the SP2 PC fixed the issue
of the search function problem when searching a CD in the CDRW drive (which
is what this thread started out as). I only included SP1 PC data here for
references purposes and out of curiosity to compare the two PC's. SP2 PC
has a LiteOn 52327S 52x32x52 BurnProof & 2mb buffer, SP1 PC has a
Teac 540E 40x24x48 BurnProof w/8mb buffer.

ECDC = Easy CD Creator, and the version is "ECDC DVD/CD 6".
DCD = Direct CD (the packet writing portion of ECDC).

 

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