XP router help!

[sumyungai]

I'm using a Windows XP pro box as a router, it has 4 network cards connected and it is connected to a wireless router. All computers can connect to the internet. Problem, computers that are connected to the xp router cannot see the computer on the wireless router. DHCP is on, on the windows router and I don't know how to turn it off. Should I set computers connect to the xp boxs' gateway to the ip on bridge on the xp box or the wireless router?

Thanx in advance guys.

And the reason why I'm doing this is because I'm out of ports on the wireless router and I have a spare xp box with spare network cards. And I'm not too familiar with linux.

 

[bruceb]

You shoud set a Static IP address on the Interface that is the feed between the two devices that are acting as Routers
For example: If you are using Ethernet 4 on the Wireless Router to feed the Input Ethernet on the PC you would set
the Router & the PC NIC card address

 

[JackMDS]

The Wireless Router should be connected as a transparent Access Point, Using a Wireless Cable/DSL Router as a Switch with an Access Point

:sun:

 

[sumyungai]

Let's simplify things and forget the router being wireless for now and just think of it like this, I have a 4 port wired router with 2 computers connected to the router. Let's call it computer A and computer B. Computer B has 2 network cards connected and is bridging one of the network connection to another computer C. If everything is set as auto, all the computers can get to the internet. Problem is computer C cannot see computer A. How should I set the IP and default gateway of all the computer and the network bridge's IP and gateway?


................... Computer A
..................... IP =192.168.1.2
................... Subnet Mask =255.255.255.0
................... Default Gateway =192.168.1.1
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Router IP =192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask =255.255.255.0
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................. Computer B
.............. IP =192.168.1.3
................. Subnet Mask =255.255.255.0
................ Default Gateway =192.168.1.1
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....................................... Network Bridge
...................................... IP =192.168.0.1
.................................. Subnet Mask =255.255.255.0
................................. Default Gateway=blank

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............................................................... Computer C
................................................................ IP =192.168.0.145
................................................................. Subnet Mask =255.255.255.0
................................................................... Default Gateway =192.168.0.1

edit: all my spacing to make it look neat is gone...arggg. I hope you guys can understand this. If not let me know and I'll clarify.

 

[Slowlearner]

Computer C is not on the same net: 192.168.0.xxx whereas the other two are set up as 192.168.1.xxx. Why do we have this convoluted set up, when all you need is a switch cost ~10$. If all you planto share just data, adding a second network protocol to the two computers, such as Netbuei, will fix the problem. If you want share an internet conection - your current arrangement will not work and a switch is what you need.

 

[sumyungai]

Originally posted by: Slowlearner
Computer C is not on the same net: 192.168.0.xxx whereas the other two are set up as 192.168.1.xxx. Why do we have this convoluted set up, when all you need is a switch cost ~10$. If all you planto share just data, adding a second network protocol to the two computers, such as Netbuei, will fix the problem. If you want share an internet conection - your current arrangement will not work and a switch is what you need.

I tried having the bridge on 192.168.1.xx and computer C the same and I can get on the net but cannot get data from computer C. So you say all I need to do is add netbeui protocol and it will work? Or do you mean NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol?

 

[nweaver]

XP is not a router/swtich...please dont' abuse it as such and expect it to work well. It's like buying a porche and trying to move your house (ok, so maybe it's more like buying a bike w/training wheels and trying to do drag races!).

 

[sumyungai]

Originally posted by: nweaver
XP is not a router/swtich...please dont' abuse it as such and expect it to work well. It's like buying a porche and trying to move your house (ok, so maybe it's more like buying a bike w/training wheels and trying to do drag races!).

Would it be better if I used mOnOwall?

 

[Slowlearner]

Using a pc dedicated as a router is a good idea in large office with many users, and there are linux distro available that will work on older pcs just for this and provide excellent monitoring/filtering/logging facilities - but is this really needed for a small home network? I dont think so.

In your case the main problem appears to be that you have run out of ports in the router - in that case all you need is a 4 (or more) port switch and a short cat5 cable - unplug one of the devices connected to the router and cascade the switch off that port and the connect the device you previously unplugged to the switch. Switches are quite inexpensive 10-20$.

If by changing the IP address on Comp C you get on the net but cant share data add Netbuei see link below on how to do it
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q301041

 

[petey117]

Originally posted by: Slowlearner
Using a pc dedicated as a router is a good idea in large office with many users, and there are linux distro available that will work on older pcs just for this and provide excellent monitoring/filtering/logging facilities - but is this really needed for a small home network? I dont think so.

In your case the main problem appears to be that you have run out of ports in the router - in that case all you need is a 4 (or more) port switch and a short cat5 cable - unplug one of the devices connected to the router and cascade the switch off that port and the connect the device you previously unplugged to the switch. Switches are quite inexpensive 10-20$.

If by changing the IP address on Comp C you get on the net but cant share data add Netbuei see link below on how to do it
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q301041

I disagree:
I have used ipcop and smoothwall, and clarkconnect in both home and office environments - both are usefull

I will not go over the office scenario, as it doesn;t seem relative

some examples of why it is useful in the home:
1) DMZ zone - perfect for adding secure wireless to your home network via an access point (if someone gets in, they will not have access to your wired machines)
2) traffic graphing - usefull to see if your computers are saturating your connection, which is very helpful if diagnosing broken or slow connections
3) application layer filtering - If you have kids, this is a self explainatory need
4) built in proxy, and advanced proxying via a plug in (useful again for kids and other reasons - to only allow access during certain times or days)

that is just my .02

 

[sumyungai]

Ok, a little background on my home situation. I have a total of 12 PC's in my house. Two of them are on wirelessly. I currently have only 1, 4 port wireless router (Netgear). My 8 port wired Linksys router bit the dust recently. I have actually 2 SPARE PC's sitting around doing absolutely nothing with 4 SPARE network cards laying around doing nothing. This is why I chose to use a PC as a router.

Now, I'm willing to venture into linux to get the job done. Anyone care to share with me which distro I should use? Thanks for the feedback guys. Keep them coming.

edit. spelling

 

[petey117]

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