XP can't see router?

[pyrosophy]

Hello all, strange problem here. I have two computers that I'm trying to network. One is running XP pro, the other is running 98se. So I have one NIC in the 98se machine and it can ping both itself and the Linksys router (which I'm only using as a switch). It draws IP and all is good. I have two NICs in the XP machine, one connected directly to the cable modem I'm using, and the other connected to another port on the switch/router. The second card doesn't see the router -- it can ping itself, but not the router. I don't see why it shouldn't, but perhaps you have an idea?

I'm trying to use just TCP/IP for the whole thing since XP somewhat outlaws NetBEUI -- but I don't think NetBEUI will solve the problem, because I used to have the following system working: The 98se machine had the two NICs, only one in use, plugged into the router. The XP machine had one NIC which, when I plugged the cable from the cable modem into the Uplink port on the router/switch, could see the internet, but not the other machine. When I disconnected the cable modem from the uplink port, the machines could see each other and all was good, but I sort of wanted to both see both machines and have access to the internet (on the xp machine) at the same time. I thought the above situation would make it all run smoothly, but so far it's fuxor'd.

Any ideas? Thanks.

 

[ScottMac]

From a DOS window, do a "Netstat -rn" and see where your default route is pointing.

Also do an IPCONFIG (or whatever the XP equivalent is).

Do both NICs have link lights? Are both NICs set for the same operating parameters (Suggest 10/half to start, work your way up from there)?

Why not just use the router? It'll be quicker and won't rob resources from the host machine.

FWIW

Scott

 

[pyrosophy]

Thanks Scott. I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking for in the netstat output, and can't copy, paste the large amount of text here. After listing the two nics, it gives lots of numbers that resemble my public IP through the cable modem. Both lights are lit on the NICS, as well as registering on the router/switch. As far as I can tell, both are set to the same settings as well. According to XP, the second NIC is getting a private IP, with a strange submask, 255.255.0.0 . Whereas the other machine is getting plain old 192.168.1.101 . Also, the OS can't renew the IP address.

I suppose if I get desparate, I'll just use the routing function, but I'd really rather not be behind the firewall right now. Also, I'd like to know for curiosity's sake what in the world is going on here. Maybe it's a problem with two nics, but I used to do this kind of thing with 98se and my laptop (also 98se) all the time...

Thanks again.

 

[JackMDS]

Take the Second NIC from where it is.

Disconnect the cable modem from the router, and plug the Two computers to the Router using normal cables.

Go over all the setting and make sure that you have a functional network.

When you have a functional Network (and only then) connect the cable modem to the WAN input. By then every thing will work.

WinXP has an IPCONFIG.EXE

Here is info for WinXP:

<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/addxp.htm">Adding Windows XP Home Edition to an Existing Network </a>

If you are not using NetBEUI, make sure that your Win98 system is not set with NetBEUI as default protocol.

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BTW: NetBEUI is on WinXP CD under: d:\VALUEADD\MSFT\NET\NETBEUI

And on Microsoft site: HOW TO: Install NetBEUI on Windows XP

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Go over all your W98 Sharing setting.

All computers can have one, two, or three, of the following Network Protocols:

All used Protocols are bound to the Ethernet Card.

All computers have the same Workgroup name.

Each computer has it own unique name.


Sharing setting in Win98!!!

You will not see a Computer in the Network Neighborhood, unless it shares something.

Make sure that you Logon as Client for Microsoft Network.

There are three places to be checked for sharing:

The first two are in Control Panel, Network.

1. The Protocol that you are using for sharing, has to be bound to Client for Microsoft Network, and Sharing is Checked in the protocol's properties menu.

2. The general File and Print Sharing has to be installed, and checked.

The third in "My Computer" folder.

3. Individual Drive or/and printer has to be checked for sharing.
Right click on the device to share, choose properties, click on the sharing Tab, check Shared As, and give it a name.

For printer:

Click My Computer, click on Printers, right click on the printer that you want to share, click on Properties, choose the Sharing tab, checked share, give it a name.


Important: The Shared Printer Drivers has to be installed on all the Network computers.

 

[pyrosophy]

Thanks, Jack (and Scott). Unfortunately the unique nature of this problem is that the cable modem isn't even plugged into the router -- it's on a totally separate stream into the computer. If I unplug the modem altogether, I still can't get xp to get an IP address from the router for its NIC. Someone mentioned setting up a "master browser" computer which does the bookkeeping, but I haven't been able to find such a setting anywhere in XP. Two NICs can't be too much of a problem for Microsoft's latest networking operating system, can they?

btw, the only protocol installed is TCP/IP, it's set to default and the workgroup names are all the same...