XP and IE8 rebels

[postmortemIA]

So use Chrome or Firefox. Their latest still works on xp. For how long God knows.
BTW even on Vista you can get only up to ie 9. How lame is that? The competition can get all browsers for all operating systems, and Microsoft can't get get for their own that are still in use.

 

[nemesismk2]

So use Chrome or Firefox. Their latest still works on xp. For how long God knows.
BTW even on Vista you can get only up to ie 9. How lame is that? The competition can get all browsers for all operating systems, and Microsoft can't get get for their own that are still in use.

google has just announced that windows xp support for chrome will last atleast until end of 2015. mozilla firefox has no end date for windows xp. you could also use opera which is still supported for windows xp.

 

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Got this with online banking , it is not safe to use unsupported os and browser for this . Main reason is when being hacked the bank take responsibility only when using supported OS and browser and anti virus .

My main OS is XP but reboot to W7 to do this kind of thing ,but XP is not forgotten , i receive critical update every month by windows update for Malicious Software Removal Tool . It find things that Malwarebytes do not find

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/dow...emoval-tool-details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=16

 

[Mushkins]

So use Chrome or Firefox. Their latest still works on xp. For how long God knows.
BTW even on Vista you can get only up to ie 9. How lame is that? The competition can get all browsers for all operating systems, and Microsoft can't get get for their own that are still in use.

That's because Firefox and Chrome are just x86 applications, whereas IE is tightly integrated with the operating system itself. Older versions of windows do not have the components that IE9/10/11/etc need to function.

Regardless, this whole thread is silly. The OP can either install a modern OS or install a modern third party browser to get around that limitation, but it's still not going to be secure, and anyone who thinks installing AV and Malwarebytes magically makes their old Windows XP installation secure is kidding themselves.

 

[ninaholic37]

thanks dude 111...i already have haters lol


read again. its "new pc,new os,ie9, or go blank yourself , microsoft is telling the community. you should have learned about monopolies in grade school fard and mush.
anyway...
3 security programs i use keep me safe. kudos to bleepingcomputer site.
mikeymike anandtech wont let me post the url.
these are from the pages.
thanks
Time to upgrade?
You're using Internet Explorer 8, the latest browser for Windows XP. Support for Windows XP and Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP has ended.
Learn more
End of support for Windows XP and Internet Explorer 8
Internet Explorer 8
As of April 8, 2014, technical assistance for Windows XP and Internet Explorer 8 is no longer available, including automatic updates and security patches that help protect your PC.
If you continue to use Windows XP and Internet Explorer 8 now that support has ended, your computer will still work but it might become more vulnerable to security risks and viruses. If your Windows XP PC is connected to the Internet and you use Internet Explorer 8 to surf the web after support has ended, you might be exposing your PC to additional threats.
then i clik under product, internet explorer [or just about any link] an get
Get your hands on Windows 8.1
Windows 8.1 brings you exciting new ways to use your PC. It's fast, fluid, intuitive, and designed to let you do what you want, the way you want.
Get Windows 8.1
The Windows 8.1
Better browsing with Internet Explorer
See if you've got the latest version for your operating system and discover the features that Internet Explorer has to offer.
Get Internet Explorer now
^^^ an the vicious circle begins.
other sites a banner about supporting ie8 pops up on top of page. you dismiss it an continue.
tryd chrome an have old mozilla. at present opera is top choice for a frequented site that needs user agent switcher.
VM? i have never tryd using one. ive built an swapped pc / parts since 98 [devry student late 90s]. melted a couple too. but programing an the such eludes me.

If IE8 makes your posts look like this, that's bad. I could hardly understand this

Finally I understand what your name is saying without the l33t version though (spelling with an "i" instead of an "e"), and I agree with your username.

 

[Morbus]

Customer is always right.

Only if the person is selling. Microsoft isn't selling Windows XP anymore.

People using XP are no longer costumers. And they're not right.

 

[mikeymikec]

This thread is bizarre.

As for the person trying to justify XP with the whole "program only runs in XP, not 7" argument. 7 Pro will emulate that. There is literally no excuse.

Unless the program requires access to unusual hardware for which only XP drivers have been written, things like diagnostic equipment for motor vehicles for instance.

 

[cabri]

Only if the person is selling. Microsoft isn't selling Windows XP anymore.

People using XP are no longer costumers. And they're not right.

I sell my services to a customer as a consultant.
I am not an IT department nor an IT consultant to them.
The customer wants to use XP and it works for them.

I can make the recommendation that if they want the latest and get MS support for their systems that they need to.

I do not have the authorization to tell them they have to switch to a newer version.

There is a difference between being an consultant for a project and running an IT department or being an IT consultant.

 

[Fardringle]

This thread is bizarre.

As for the person trying to justify XP with the whole "program only runs in XP, not 7" argument. 7 Pro will emulate that. There is literally no excuse.

I've run into several situations where programs and/or hardware won't work in Windows 7 whether in the compatibility mode or the XP virtual machine. I've even dealt with some that won't work with anything newer than Windows 98. In those cases, it's perfectly valid to use the older OS (but not go online). However, those are the rare exceptions and anyone else should put XP away, and I say that as someone who held on to my XP desktop until I absolutely had to upgrade..

 

[sweenish]

I don't care for the hardware side of the argument, it's beyond the scope of my post.

Obviously there will be exceptions, but I've not seen a program myself that the XP virtual machine wouldn't handle. Even if that is the case, the VM in Windows 8 is even better, I believe. Not tried it for running XP programs.

 

[Magic Carpet]

BTW even on Vista you can get only up to ie 9. How lame is that?

Microsoft Windows used to be about supporting as much software/hardware as possible. Now they are doing exactly the opposite. With every Windows "redesign" they are cutting on features and your abilities to customize Windows your way. I was on the Microsoft support live chat earlier today, telling Bill just that.

 

[eliminatehumans]

omg... now half of the posts are missing. the admins {feels like tron eek} supose to merge this sn with that won.
cabri? is it. YES the customer is always right. you would have my business. decent service is hard to find any more.

morbus? sending my cat after your mouse..

i do not want to change os till this pc dies . theres a possibility newer os will not run on this pc, '06 dell loaded with much software by previous owner (yes i know it can be transfered), already explained here why cant install any other ie , another one of microsofts ways of saying "up yours user you will obey us or else". just like steve jobs brrainwashed iphone users, morbus is a prime example.
i forget the sn but yes updates still come through sugesting they are still supporting ie8/xp. wonder if this user did not instal the "end of support" update also?
oh, then some one said the formatting of my reply was all amiss, that was copy paste due to this site not letting that one go through. it just happend again , token expired.
i have the other browsers with the addons. BUT there are sites that will only accept ie browser which is part of the reason for this thread.

understand this, i dont like ie browser but i just told why i use it.

originally i asked if a go around was out there. some genious will do it just because they want the challenge. i wish i could do these things but im a mechanical genious {in my own mind, } i am dam good though.

VM? i have never tried this. am very open to it. map to it anyone??
dig smileys too . can you put in smilies found elsewhere?

 

[eliminatehumans]

Microsoft Windows used to be about supporting as much software/hardware as possible. Now they are doing exactly the opposite. With every Windows "redesign" they are cutting on features and your abilities to customize Windows your way. I was on the Microsoft support live chat earlier today, telling Bill just that.

you have an inside mole lol
your post is another example how microsoft is reaming users. ky sales are probly up:whiste:
alas the sheep follow one another to the slaughter.

 

[ninaholic37]

cabri? is it. YES the customer is always right. you would have my business.

Ah yes, I'm going to go to Walmart and buy a chocolate bar and say:

"You owe me $1,000,000 in change... I gave you $1,000,001!"

The customer is always right indeed

 

[gmaster456]

Yeah! Use they least secure operating system and web browser out there! MS is only after money! There's no reason why they shouldn't support a 14 year old operating system.

You show them!

 

[VirtualLarry]

Yeah! Use they least secure operating system and web browser out there! MS is only after money! There's no reason why they shouldn't support a 14 year old operating system.

You show them!

LOL. Yeah, that's about the size of it.

But, honestly, MS could have offered an updated browser during XP's later years.

I still don't quite understand why Vista SP2 can only use IE9, when Windows 7 can use IE11. They're practically the same damn OS underneath.

Edit: Or maybe MS will be kind, and release a down-rev version of Spartan, their new not-IE browser. Since IEx is integrated so deeply into the OS, and presumably, Spartan is not, then that could be a technical possibility. Then again, that's not actually IE either, so for IE fans, they might as well be switching to Firefox or Chrome, if they were going to switch to Spartan (if available for their preferred OS).

 

[mikeymikec]

LOL. Yeah, that's about the size of it.

But, honestly, MS could have offered an updated browser during XP's later years.

I still don't quite understand why Vista SP2 can only use IE9, when Windows 7 can use IE11. They're practically the same damn OS underneath.

My guess is that it's about how popular the successor to the OS in question is.

Win2k was left on IE6 SP1 because XP was popular.
XP got to IE8 because it was popular and Vista was not.
Vista got left on IE9 because Win7 was popular.

Once Win10 is out (and MS is counting on it being popular because they're offering it as a free upgrade to more than half of their customer base and because they don't want to keep supporting older OS's), they'll stop providing anything new for Win7 and Win8x. I bet there were even discussions to drop the 2020 and 2023 support dates for Win7 and Win8x respectively if all went to plan, but I doubt that they would go that far.

 

[Dude111]

This thread is bizarre.

Ah man!!

I think its awesome..... It shows some ppl have THIER OWN MINDS and stay with what they like....

 

[postmortemIA]

I bet there were even discussions to drop the 2020 and 2023 support dates for Win7 and Win8x respectively if all went to plan, but I doubt that they would go that far.

They won't stop bug fix support, but good luck in getting anything beyond that, AKA Vista.
Windows 7 is the new Vista. It is not obvious now, it happened early this year. but as time passes by, it will become more apparent.
And that BS of browser tightly integrated with OS happens only to ... Microsoft

 

[sweenish]

Ah man!!

I think its awesome..... It shows some ppl have THIER OWN MINDS and stay with what they like....

No, it shows a lack of knowledge and logic.

XP is, by today's standards, a security nightmare. Wanting to take it online is one of the worst things you could do.

Staying with what you like is one thing. This is not that. This isn't someone always ordering chocolate ice cream because it's what they like. This is someone still wanting to order chocolate ice cream from a company that has a reputation for poisoning their ice cream.

Sticking to the old ways when the new ways have been repeatedly shown to be objectively better and safer is simply stupid, and ignorant.

 

[matricks]

My guess is that it's about how popular the successor to the OS in question is.

Win2k was left on IE6 SP1 because XP was popular.
XP got to IE8 because it was popular and Vista was not.
Vista got left on IE9 because Win7 was popular.

It's simply the support lifecycle. Once mainstream support ends and a Windows version enters extended support, no new features are released for it, including major new versions of Internet Explorer. IE6 was the current version when Win2000 mainstream ended, IE8 was current when XP mainstream ended, IE9 was current when Vista mainstream ended, and IE11 was current when Win7 mainstream ended. No conspiracies here.

I'd bet against you that Microsoft discussed shortening the support lifecycle of Win7 and 8. Those dates were settled long before Windows 10 was named. They can't backtrack on such a basic matter, unless they intend to go bankrupt. Microsoft would lose all credibility among business customers who rely on the long lifecycle, and probably face major lawsuits, as their original marketing would have been deceptive.

 

[mikeymikec]

It's simply the support lifecycle. Once mainstream support ends and a Windows version enters extended support, no new features are released for it, including major new versions of Internet Explorer. IE6 was the current version when Win2000 mainstream ended

IE6 SP2 was released (Aug 2004) during Win2k's mainstream support phase (which ended June 2005) yet was not released for Win2k. The rest of your point regarding release dates and support lifecycles is correct though.

 

[eliminatehumans]

sits back eating popcorn

i didnt ask for a debate just hack

 

[Morbus]

Oh, you're asking for hacking all right...

And we're not here for your benefit. This is an open forum.

 

[John Connor]

OP, You're going to be SOL when flash dies and HTML 5 takes over.

Ditch IE and use Pale Moon.