XP 3200 the last socket A?

[durfsta]

Im curious if any one knows when AMD plans to drop Socket A...is 3200 the last one?

I was planning on upgrading to an Nforce2 Motherboard but didnt want to waste the money if I wont have an upgrade path later.

Thanks

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: durfsta
Im curious if any one knows when AMD plans to drop Socket A...is 3200 the last one?

I was planning on upgrading to an Nforce2 Motherboard but didnt want to waste the money if I wont have an upgrade path later.

Thanks

3200+ is the last Athlon XP as the top performer. but i'm sure once AMD launches Athlon 64, they'll still be periodically updating the Athlon XP value lineup

 

[microAmp]

Wasn't the AthlonXP supposed to be low end CPU like the Duron with Athlon64 comes out?

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: durfsta
Im curious if any one knows when AMD plans to drop Socket A...is 3200 the last one?

I was planning on upgrading to an Nforce2 Motherboard but didnt want to waste the money if I wont have an upgrade path later.

Thanks

with the thorton coming out, the 3200+ will not be the last socket A

i believe it'll go almost up to 4000+ before the 64 comes out....

thorton = thoroughbred + barton ... 256 L2 cache + barton die size....

it may clock higher... who knows.. it'll be interesting... yummy... thorton...

 

[Harabecw]

whats yummy? its a downgraded barton.

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Harabecw
whats yummy? its a downgraded barton.

the fact that the celeron overclocks well enough gets my attention

 

[squidman]

I hope AMD cpus dont get outdated when they come out. Needless to say, AMD's need to work at better memory controller, like intel did with 875 and 865. If i was an AMD director thats what id do.

 

[Mingon]

AMD's need to work at better memory controller, like intel did with 875 and 865. If i was an AMD director thats what id do.

How do you come about with that conclusion?

 

[microAmp]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim

Originally posted by: durfsta
Im curious if any one knows when AMD plans to drop Socket A...is 3200 the last one?

I was planning on upgrading to an Nforce2 Motherboard but didnt want to waste the money if I wont have an upgrade path later.

Thanks

with the thorton coming out, the 3200+ will not be the last socket A

i believe it'll go almost up to 4000+ before the 64 comes out....

thorton = thoroughbred + barton ... 256 L2 cache + barton die size....

it may clock higher... who knows.. it'll be interesting... yummy... thorton...

So really Thorton is a T-bred at 200 MHz FSB. I don't see how it can be the same die size as Barton with less cache.

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: motoamd

Originally posted by: Shimmishim

Originally posted by: durfsta
Im curious if any one knows when AMD plans to drop Socket A...is 3200 the last one?

I was planning on upgrading to an Nforce2 Motherboard but didnt want to waste the money if I wont have an upgrade path later.

Thanks

with the thorton coming out, the 3200+ will not be the last socket A

i believe it'll go almost up to 4000+ before the 64 comes out....

thorton = thoroughbred + barton ... 256 L2 cache + barton die size....

it may clock higher... who knows.. it'll be interesting... yummy... thorton...

So really Thorton is a T-bred at 200 MHz FSB. I don't see how it can be the same die size as Barton with less cache.

it's a barton with a defect in 1/2 of it's cache, so AMD disabled that half and you get Thorton. a barton with the cache of a throughbred

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: squidman
I hope AMD cpus dont get outdated when they come out. Needless to say, AMD's need to work at better memory controller, like intel did with 875 and 865. If i was an AMD director thats what id do.

are you talking about Athlon 64/Opteron?

 

[microAmp]

Originally posted by: bgeh

Originally posted by: motoamd

Originally posted by: Shimmishim

Originally posted by: durfsta
Im curious if any one knows when AMD plans to drop Socket A...is 3200 the last one?

I was planning on upgrading to an Nforce2 Motherboard but didnt want to waste the money if I wont have an upgrade path later.

Thanks

with the thorton coming out, the 3200+ will not be the last socket A

i believe it'll go almost up to 4000+ before the 64 comes out....

thorton = thoroughbred + barton ... 256 L2 cache + barton die size....

it may clock higher... who knows.. it'll be interesting... yummy... thorton...

So really Thorton is a T-bred at 200 MHz FSB. I don't see how it can be the same die size as Barton with less cache.

it's a barton with a defect in 1/2 of it's cache, so AMD disabled that half and you get Thorton. a barton with the cache of a throughbred

Ahhh... thanks for clearing that up!

 

[KDOG]

I hope its not the last one. That would suck for people who just bought a new nForce 2 mobo that supports 400Mhz bus Athlons. Like me. And didn't VIA just come out with the KT600? I don't think they would bother if they didn't think (read: have inside information) AMD was coming out with more 400MHz bus cpus for Socket A....

 

[Cadaver]

I'd expect AMD to continue pushing the XP as far as it'll go.

The Athlon 64 I presume wont be that cheap when it comes out. And in addition, those who use it will want the 64-bit version of WindowsXP to run on it. So, tally up the price of a new motherboard (and new RAM for some people), processor AND operating system. That will make a fairly high-price upgrade.

I've got a 2600+ now, running at 2.3GHz (3000+ ish)... wouldn't mind popping in a 3800+ or similar in 6 months or so

 

[sandorski]

As long as people keep buying SocketA, AMD is likely to continue making updates. The K6-2/3 line lasted much longer than AMD intended them to, because demand remained strong.

 

[randumb]

They'll probably keep pushing the Athlon XPs, cuz after Althon 64, XPs are their budget line.

 

[squidman]

Yes, im talking about upcoming XP's...what are going to be their platforms? AMD needs to come up with something before they launch the 64 or thorton, or whatever they're planning. I know, that nForce2 or 3 is extremely fast when it comes to games, that it performs on par with P4's...but when it comes to MPEG2, M-JPEG, and other videorendering athlon is hurtin bad! I still have to give intels engineers the props - the memory performs awesomly on 865 and 875...i only wish amd would do the same, unless it wants to suffocate with its outdated-once-released CPU's.

 

[Mingon]

The amd memory controller performs just as good as its intel counterpart, the problem is that the P4 has twice the potential throughput due to its QDR not DDR configuration.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Mingon
The amd memory controller performs just as good as its intel counterpart, the problem is that the P4 has twice the potential throughput due to its QDR not DDR configuration.

Thats all theoretical. Intels actual throughput at the same clocks (say 800mhz qdr vs 400mhz ddr) makes less than 1% of an actual performance difference.

Not to mention AMD doesnt design memory controllers (unless you cound 760-762MPX). NVIDIA, VIA, and SiS do.

 

[Mingon]

Thats all theoretical. Intels actual throughput at the same clocks (say 800mhz qdr vs 400mhz ddr) makes less than 1% of an actual performance difference.

How is that theoretical ? the Amd ev6 fsb has a maximum of 3.2 gb/s where as the Intel has 6.4 when paired with pc 3200 in Dual channel mode the amd will never be able to use more than 3.2gb/s