xmen x3 question about VERY end

[spacejamz]

the training room session at beginning was pretty awesome...wolverine aced a sentinel....that was totally unexpected....


other than that....IMO, the movie was a huge let down...the plot and story line were pretty weak....

the only other redeeming thing about the movie was seeing Mystique after she got cured!!!!

 

[Killerme33]

I just saw it, and I liked it. I didn't like how some of the characters had way too small roles. How about Rogue having almost no part, even though the first movie was centered partly around her. Arc Angel was pretty cool but he only had 2 minutes of time in the entire movie. I was kinda suprised by this because he seems to be shown in all of the commercials I've seen.

I didn't know about the scene after the credits so I didn't stick around to watch it . I wonder if I can find a clip of it.

 

[Trevelyan]

Yeah the more I think about it, the more I'm dissapointed with it.

Hated:

1) Rogue having a small part, and getting cured. I mean, who cares about a cured mutant w/o powers? They might as well kill her off.
2) Xaver getting killed.
3) Cyclops getting killed.
4) The way Xavier talked to Wolverine... NOTHING like the first two movies. The dialogue was horrible and definately changed the characters.
5) Magneto's "What have I done?" line... sounded so unnatural.
6) Storm having such a huge part unneccessarily. Her acting and lines were terrible.
7) Xavier transferring his mind... that's so freakin lame.

Loved:
1) Action scenes. Better than 1 and 2 in my opinoin.
2) Wolverine walking towards Jean in the end, that was sweet.
3) Magneto getting his powers back. Great idea.

Overall I enjoyed the movie... it was a fun time, action-packed and overall a good experience. I just love X-Men so much its a shame that they had to butcher the characters and story to get a good movie out of it. All chances of another movie (at least, another sequel) have just gone out the window.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

I saw it and i liked it. Btw alot of the stuff you hated was loosely based off the comics (if my mind remembers that far back)

 

[LtPage1]

X3 sucked. completely. i had a friend sitting next to me whos read all the comics, and was very disappointed at how far off from the original source they were.
ive never read the comics, and am going completely off the movies here- sure the action was good, and the special effects great, but there was zero chemistry between any of the actors. they never addressed any of the interesting issues at hand, and just kept killing off characters all the time. the high point of the movie was an inside internet joke.

damn, and the first two were so, so great.

 

[James3shin]

WOW, if the movie goes like this, I sure as hell don't want to see it. What kind of sh!t is this? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: LtPage1
X3 sucked. completely. i had a friend sitting next to me whos read all the comics, and was very disappointed at how far off from the original source they were.
ive never read the comics, and am going completely off the movies here- sure the action was good, and the special effects great, but there was zero chemistry between any of the actors. they never addressed any of the interesting issues at hand, and just kept killing off characters all the time. the high point of the movie was an inside internet joke.

damn, and the first two were so, so great.

and what was the inside internet joke, i dont think i saw it?

 

[Firsttime]

I really liked the movie, the action was cool, but at the end where everyone lived happily represented after was kinda dumb. In a movie called the "Last Stand" I was expecting a different ending, with more bloodshed.

 

[state 08]

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: LtPage1
X3 sucked. completely. i had a friend sitting next to me whos read all the comics, and was very disappointed at how far off from the original source they were.
ive never read the comics, and am going completely off the movies here- sure the action was good, and the special effects great, but there was zero chemistry between any of the actors. they never addressed any of the interesting issues at hand, and just kept killing off characters all the time. the high point of the movie was an inside internet joke.

damn, and the first two were so, so great.

and what was the inside internet joke, i dont think i saw it?

That would be when Juggernaut said, "Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut b!tch!"

 

[MisterJackson]

This inside joke.....

Apparently I was the only one in a theater of 500 who got it because I was the only one who laughed out load. EVERYONE turned and looked at me.

I couldn't believe they actually did it because right at the moment he said "Don't you know who I am?" I said in my head "I'm the Juggernaut bitch!"....then he said it. Man that was gold, pure gold.

I went around the rest of the night talking in that voice to my son. He loved it.

As for the movie, a Wolvie spin off would own if done well. Storm should have been killed/cured as she only got more screen time in this one due to Holle Berry whining about her role. She's a true bitch, putting herself before the movie. Everyone else seems to not let their personal ego's get in the way of the films. I mean hell, if Patrick Stewart wanted to he could have made some really unreasonable demands on the producers because of his vital role.

As for the scene after the credits, was that doctor and that facility the one from the comics that was on some island, what was it called, I can't remember.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
This inside joke.....

ahh, now that's funny.

 

[Storm]

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
This inside joke.....

ahh, now that's funny.

LOL

 

[scrawnypaleguy]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Yeah the more I think about it, the more I'm dissapointed with it.

Hated:

1) Rogue having a small part, and getting cured. I mean, who cares about a cured mutant w/o powers? They might as well kill her off.
2) Xaver getting killed.
3) Cyclops getting killed.
4) The way Xavier talked to Wolverine... NOTHING like the first two movies. The dialogue was horrible and definately changed the characters.
5) Magneto's "What have I done?" line... sounded so unnatural.
6) Storm having such a huge part unneccessarily. Her acting and lines were terrible.
7) Xavier transferring his mind... that's so freakin lame.

Loved:
1) Action scenes. Better than 1 and 2 in my opinoin.
2) Wolverine walking towards Jean in the end, that was sweet.
3) Magneto getting his powers back. Great idea.

Overall I enjoyed the movie... it was a fun time, action-packed and overall a good experience. I just love X-Men so much its a shame that they had to butcher the characters and story to get a good movie out of it. All chances of another movie (at least, another sequel) have just gone out the window.

QFT.

I know that there was no character development, and even some very strange attempts at character development (why the hell is Xavier suddenly so mean?), I think it all just came down to trying to have too many characters. The X-men universe is huge, of course, but you can't try and put 3 dozen characters in a movie and expect to do any of them justice.

However, the action and fight scenes were excellent, they were everything I was hoping for, and really that's all I wanted from this movie, some badass fight scenes. Please don't let these poor reviews discourage you from seeing it, if you're considering it, it's a great popcorn flick! (just don't try to take it seriously)

 

[Wall7486]

Whether you guys agree Halle Barry and Hugh Jackman ruined the X-men movies. Solely my opinion. The movies have been too inconsistent with the comics. I can take a few changes, but when I see the main characters dying left and right it pisses me off. They give those two people way too much screen time. If Halle want to quit because she's not getting enough screen time then let her go, any one can take storm's role. Hugh Jackman on the other hand is the holy grail, so it would be a "sin" to not give him on screen time. He's a great actor, but they didn't need so much emphasis on him.

Things liked about X-3

1) Wolverine's ball comment
2) Callisto and Storm fight


Things hated about X-3

1) Introduced way too many characters
2) Archangel did nothing, came out to save his father (wth is that)
3) No plot, all I saw was fighting and chaos in beginning. Then mix it with the funeral and then back to more fighting.
4) Phoenix melt down - Seriously she looked more like the devil than phoenix. Completely changed the whole origin of phoenix and her powers. She is strong but the whole movie was focus on how she can shatter people into pieces.
5) Beast - I guess only reason why he got so much air time because Kelsey Grammar was playing it. Like Wolverine and storm, why does he have such a big role?
6) Mystique - arguably the hottest chick in the show and was taken out relatively early
7) Juggernaut - he is the brother of Xavier isn't he? They never even mentioned or touched upon it.
8) Magneto - Ian did pretty good in the first two movie, but this one seems to be his weakest link. In term of emotions and dialogue it wasn't as good as the other 2 movies.
9) Cyclops - Once again they screwed him over. How can you kill him off 5 min into the movie. He is the leader of x-men.....
10) Supressing the x gene - This was the vaguest part of the movie. Sometime they say the cure was to supress the gene and sometime they say it's to completely cure it. Is too inconsistent. But, from the end of the movie Magneto showed us that it was only a supressor.


Only real positive thing is that the last clip gave a possibility of a sequel. Even then I can't see them fixing up this whole mess.

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Yeah the more I think about it, the more I'm dissapointed with it.

Hated:

1) Rogue having a small part, and getting cured. I mean, who cares about a cured mutant w/o powers? They might as well kill her off.
2) Xaver getting killed.
3) Cyclops getting killed.
4) The way Xavier talked to Wolverine... NOTHING like the first two movies. The dialogue was horrible and definately changed the characters.
5) Magneto's "What have I done?" line... sounded so unnatural.
6) Storm having such a huge part unneccessarily. Her acting and lines were terrible.
7) Xavier transferring his mind... that's so freakin lame.

Loved:
1) Action scenes. Better than 1 and 2 in my opinoin.
2) Wolverine walking towards Jean in the end, that was sweet.
3) Magneto getting his powers back. Great idea.

Overall I enjoyed the movie... it was a fun time, action-packed and overall a good experience. I just love X-Men so much its a shame that they had to butcher the characters and story to get a good movie out of it. All chances of another movie (at least, another sequel) have just gone out the window.

I disagree on a few points. First of all I hate cyclops, probally the most annoying X-man ever. and Rouge couldnt have a bigger part, cause unlike the comics, she cant fly and wreck people, what could she have done in this one? drain Jean gray's powers like she did to magneto? lame.

Xavier getting killed was kinda a shock but made sense with the plot they went with, as they couldnt try to explain the entire phoenix saga in one movie (IMHO they should have not done it at all, left her dead and moved on to sentinels). And it is plausable that he transferred his mind since he is one of the most powerful telepaths.

Other than that I agree, storm has always been and always will be one of the most annoying characters, i thought it was funny that she kinda threw a temper tantrum when she created that storm, probally simmilar to the temper tantrum she threw when she wanted a bigger role.

I also agree on all the points u liked, with the addition of "I'm the Juggernaut, Bitch" suprisingly most of the theatre laughed, not sure if they knew the inside joke, but it was funny nontheless

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: WhoBeDaPlaya
I was much more interested in Wolverine's "Grow those back"

BTW : Watched it after a long work day, so I guess I missed the inside joke that's supposedly there?

What joke are you referring to?

The "Grow those back?" Wolverine was cutting off his limbs and they were just re-growing... so he gave him a swift kick to the nads.

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: Wall7486
Whether you guys agree Halle Barry and Hugh Jackman ruined the X-men movies. Solely my opinion. The movies have been too inconsistent with the comics. I can take a few changes, but when I see the main characters dying left and right it pisses me off. They give those two people way too much screen time. If Halle want to quit because she's not getting enough screen time then let her go, any one can take storm's role. Hugh Jackman on the other hand is the holy grail, so it would be a "sin" to not give him on screen time. He's a great actor, but they didn't need so much emphasis on him.

Things liked about X-3

1) Wolverine's ball comment
2) Callisto and Storm fight


Things hated about X-3

1) Introduced way too many characters
2) Archangel did nothing, came out to save his father (wth is that)
3) No plot, all I saw was fighting and chaos in beginning. Then mix it with the funeral and then back to more fighting.
4) Phoenix melt down - Seriously she looked more like the devil than phoenix. Completely changed the whole origin of phoenix and her powers. She is strong but the whole movie was focus on how she can shatter people into pieces.
5) Beast - I guess only reason why he got so much air time because Kelsey Grammar was playing it. Like Wolverine and storm, why does he have such a big role?
6) Mystique - arguably the hottest chick in the show and was taken out relatively early
7) Juggernaut - he is the brother of Xavier isn't he? They never even mentioned or touched upon it.
8) Magneto - Ian did pretty good in the first two movie, but this one seems to be his weakest link. In term of emotions and dialogue it wasn't as good as the other 2 movies.
9) Cyclops - Once again they screwed him over. How can you kill him off 5 min into the movie. He is the leader of x-men.....
10) Supressing the x gene - This was the vaguest part of the movie. Sometime they say the cure was to supress the gene and sometime they say it's to completely cure it. Is too inconsistent. But, from the end of the movie Magneto showed us that it was only a supressor.


Only real positive thing is that the last clip gave a possibility of a sequel. Even then I can't see them fixing up this whole mess.

Cyclops sux, period. He should have died in the first one. His whole emotional I'm the badass leader follow me attitude got annoying in like 5min. His death was a welcome plus. And I realize how they didnt go into the background for these characters but u have to remember they dont have enough time to. If these movies were as long as LOTR then maybe they could throw in all the backstory. But when u take a comic series that has been around forever there is no way to please everybody.

I agree Halle Barry should have gotten less screen time, but not wolverine. He is probally the most devloped and intriguing and loved character in the movies, and they did a decent job with him. They did introduce to many characters without enough story, this movie emphasized the action, not the character, gotta remember it was a new director IIRC.

X2>X3>X1

 

[Wall7486]

Yes, but you have to realize X-men has a huge fan base and also a huge Cyclops fan base as well. In the comics he lived to be older and have a child with Jean. I don't understand how they can change that completely. I know this is not the comics, but it is too inconsistent. They can at the very least give him a better storyline. Not like Jean walked up to him and shattered him into pieces. I mean Jean loves the guy, she can at least supress the phoenix and not kill him instaneously. They should at least show her struggling to a certain extent. I am a cyclops fan as you can tell and I was unhappy to what they did to him in X2. He got knocked out for basically the entire movie and they screwed him again in X3.

 

[natep]

Just some guesses toward what happened.

Since the cure is based off of the Leech, it is going to be temporary. Mystique, Rogue, and Magneto will be back full force next movie.

Cyclops is probably alive. He's too big of a character in the X-Men universe to knock out of X2 and kill in the beginning of X3. Maybe the writers really hate him though.

If they follow the comics for the next movie, which they very well might not, Apocalypse will be in it, and will turn Angel into Arch Angel. I don't know why else they would introduce Angel and not have him do crap the entire movie. They even gave him a childhood prelude in X3.

 

[bigrash]

saw it last night and I thought it was the worst out of all 3. I loved the first 2 so this one was very dissapointing to me. it was also very inconsistant with the comic books.

I can't believe how cheesy Phoenix looked. she has so much power and I guess i was expecting to see her in the fire bird form. i don't think that she was used properly.

i can't believe they had so many of the main characters die. I mean, i know it's probably the last of the xmen movies but that was stupid. I really wished that Brian Singer would have directed this one because I think the only reason why the first two were really good was because of him. The plot for the first two movies were way more solid.

fyi - the doctor at the end was dr. moira mactaggert. she was very close to prof x. a while back and she was also involved with the island of genosha

 

[mabrito]

Originally posted by: natep
Just some guesses toward what happened.

Since the cure is based off of the Leech, it is going to be temporary. Mystique, Rogue, and Magneto will be back full force next movie.

Cyclops is probably alive. He's too big of a character in the X-Men universe to knock out of X2 and kill in the beginning of X3. Maybe the writers really hate him though.

If they follow the comics for the next movie, which they very well might not, Apocalypse will be in it, and will turn Angel into Arch Angel. I don't know why else they would introduce Angel and not have him do crap the entire movie. They even gave him a childhood prelude in X3.

That is a interesting theory about the leech effect wearing off. And I honestly dont believe we saw the last of Jean. If I remember correctly in the comic books, she was killed like 2 or 3 times. She came back to life, because she a "phoenix." One of the times she actually talked to death. Its been so long since I read them and I didnt read them all, but that is what I remember.

IMO, they should do a new Xmen before Xmen 1 times. The backgrounds on everyone is to random and they dont enough explaining and for anyone who never read the comic books or watched the cartoon, they probably are lost with the background stories. I agree, that they introduced way to many charcaters in this one.

 

[EGGO]

My 2 nitpicks:

-He's not Archangel, just Angel. Archangel was after Apocalypse alters his looks.
-wtf? Juggernaut was NOT a mutant. The leech should have had NO impact on him.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Yeah the more I think about it, the more I'm dissapointed with it.

Hated:

1) Rogue having a small part, and getting cured. I mean, who cares about a cured mutant w/o powers? They might as well kill her off.
2) Xaver getting killed.
3) Cyclops getting killed.
4) The way Xavier talked to Wolverine... NOTHING like the first two movies. The dialogue was horrible and definately changed the characters.
5) Magneto's "What have I done?" line... sounded so unnatural.
6) Storm having such a huge part unneccessarily. Her acting and lines were terrible.
7) Xavier transferring his mind... that's so freakin lame.

Loved:
1) Action scenes. Better than 1 and 2 in my opinoin.
2) Wolverine walking towards Jean in the end, that was sweet.
3) Magneto getting his powers back. Great idea.

Overall I enjoyed the movie... it was a fun time, action-packed and overall a good experience. I just love X-Men so much its a shame that they had to butcher the characters and story to get a good movie out of it. All chances of another movie (at least, another sequel) have just gone out the window.

Agreed. This is definately the weakest entry in the series. The interplay between xavier and magneto was well executed in the first two films...but their dialog and the script just didn't match up with their characters AT ALL in this one. Magneto abandoning mystique at the drop of a hat. Magneto not anticipating plastic weapons and not being able to just use stray metal. (Magneto isn't an idiot, and they built a plastic prison for him in the last movie...WTF wouldn't they make plastic weapons?) Magnetos blatant disregard for the mutants he used as fodder. Xaviers lines to logan were off, Xavier has endless patience but suddenly he's king douchebag I-don't-have-to-explain-myself-to-the-likes-of-you. Even cyclops was whinier then his usual unbearably whiny self for the 5 seconds he was on screen.

The action was entertaining, but they crammed a ton of characters in and didn't do hardly any of them any justice. Collosues was the worst...I love that character, and the guy showed up on screen twice just barely long enough to toss wolverine and thats all we got to see out of him. Meanwhile Halle Barrie gets an extended role, like I needed any more of her wooden performance.

 

[chuckywang]

Was the patient at the very end the same physically as Xavier? I couldn't tell from the brief shot of him, but he kinda looked like Xavier, especially after he spoke with Xavier's voice. I thought it might have been Xavier's clone or something. Or was he just the same catatonic patient in the video during Xavier's speech but Xavier transferred his conciousness into him?

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Was the patient at the very end the same physically as Xavier? I couldn't tell from the brief shot of him, but he kinda looked like Xavier, especially after he spoke with Xavier's voice. I thought it might have been Xavier's clone to something. Or was he just the same catatonic patient in the video during Xavier's speech but Xavier transferred his conciousness into him?

it was the guy in a coma they showed earlier in the movie when xavier was talking about ethics. i assume the voice was xaviers so that the audience would know his conscience took over.