XMas..... Taking the Christ out of Christmas

SilentVixen

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I dunno if it has ever bothered anyone else, but I really don't like when people call it X-mas. Isn't the whole thing about Christ? I'm not a religous fanatic or anything, but that's just one of those things that I find irritating.
 

Xylitol

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No one cares except those douche bags at Walmart
Most people who celebrate Christmas are Christian (I'm assuming)
Please, just accept the fact that the Holidays are usually called Christmas not Happy HOLIDAYS or HANUKKHA

I think that you're going to have to live with the fact that people say "Happy Christmas"
Walmart made a big deal about this last year, but not this year

:)
 

SilentVixen

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
No one cares except those douche bags at Walmart
Most people who celebrate Christmas are Christian (I'm assuming)
Please, just accept the fact that the Holidays are usually called Christmas not Happy HOLIDAYS or HANUKKHA

I think that you're going to have to live with the fact that people say "Happy Christmas"
Walmart made a big deal about this last year, but not this year

:)

Please re-read. You missed the point.

Edit: unless you're talkin to IAteYourMother
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: SilentVixen
Originally posted by: Xylitol
No one cares except those douche bags at Walmart
Most people who celebrate Christmas are Christian (I'm assuming)
Please, just accept the fact that the Holidays are usually called Christmas not Happy HOLIDAYS or HANUKKHA

I think that you're going to have to live with the fact that people say "Happy Christmas"
Walmart made a big deal about this last year, but not this year

:)

Please re-read. You missed the point.

Edit: unless you're talkin to IAteYourMother

My apologies
Yea no one should take out the Christ in Christmas since the holiday is for HIM/her (For the feminists)
 

Eeezee

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Xmas has been its nickname for over 50 years. Where the hell have you been?

Just be thankful that you don't live in one of those communities that really is trying to remove all things related to christmas. They're actually kind of rare, but it's still screwed up. So long as you can still hear "Merry Christmas" and see Santa Clause at the mall surrounded by christmas decorations and signs all around town referencing christmas, there's really nothing to worry about. In fact, I don't even remember the last time I heard it called Xmas outside of a Looney Toons episode
 

SilentVixen

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
Xmas has been its nickname for over 50 years. Where the hell have you been?

Just be thankful that you don't live in one of those communities that really is trying to remove all things related to christmas. They're actually kind of rare, but it's still screwed up. So long as you can still hear "Merry Christmas" and see Santa Clause at the mall surrounded by christmas decorations and signs all around town referencing christmas, there's really nothing to worry about. In fact, I don't even remember the last time I heard it called Xmas outside of a Looney Toons episode

The point is not that it has been that way for over 50 years. I see it all the time on AT.
 

Eska

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Anyone think it's too much of a coincidence that Jesus was born in the same day as christmas?
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: Eska
Anyone think it's too much of a coincidence that Jesus was born in the same day as christmas?

Anyone think that Christmas was created to be on the same day as Jesus' birth?
 
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Originally posted by: Xylitol
No one cares except those douche bags at Walmart
Most people who celebrate Christmas are Christian (I'm assuming)
Please, just accept the fact that the Holidays are usually called Christmas not Happy HOLIDAYS or HANUKKHA

I think that you're going to have to live with the fact that people say "Happy Christmas"
Walmart made a big deal about this last year, but not this year

:)

O'Reily Cares!
 

nageov3t

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of all the problems assosiated with the particular holiday, what people call it is probably the least of them.

I never got what the big deal was about saying happy holidays. different people celebrate different things... why not just say one neutral term that could apply to any and all?
 

amol

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Eska
Anyone think it's too much of a coincidence that Jesus was born in the same day as christmas?

Anyone think that Christmas was created to be on the same day as Jesus' birth?

Anyone think that Xylitol needs a sarcasm meter?
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: Amol
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Eska
Anyone think it's too much of a coincidence that Jesus was born in the same day as christmas?

Anyone think that Christmas was created to be on the same day as Jesus' birth?

Anyone think that Xylitol needs a sarcasm meter?

except he was most likely not born on December 25th
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: Amol
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: Eska
Anyone think it's too much of a coincidence that Jesus was born in the same day as christmas?

Anyone think that Christmas was created to be on the same day as Jesus' birth?

Anyone think that Xylitol needs a sarcasm meter?

I expect sarcastic statements to be funny :confused:
I guess it's just me
 

BoomerD

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas
"Xmas" and "X-mas" are common abbreviations of the word "Christmas". They are sometimes pronounced "eksmas", but they, and variants such as "Xtemass", originated as handwriting abbreviations for the pronunciation "Christmas". The "-mas" part came from the Anglo-Saxon for "festival", "religious event": Cristesmæsse or Cristemæsse. This abbreviation is widely but not universally accepted; some view it as demeaning to Christ, whilst others find it a helpful abbreviation.

This 1922 Ladies Home Journal advertisement uses "Xmas".The word "Christ" and its compounds, including "Christmas", have been abbreviated for at least the past 1,000 years, long before the modern "Xmas" was commonly used. "Christ" was often written as "XP" or "Xt"; there are references in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as far back as 1021 AD. This X and P arose as the uppercase forms of the Greek letters ? and ?), used in ancient abbreviations for ???st?? (Greek for "Christ") (see Labarum), and are still widely seen in many Eastern Orthodox icons depicting Jesus Christ.

Many people believe that the term is part of an effort to "take Christ out of Christmas" or to literally "cross out Christ";[citation needed] it is also seen as evidence of the secularization of Christmas or a vehicle for pushing political correctness, or as a symptom of the commercialization of the holiday (as the abbreviation has long been used by retailers).

The occasionally felt belief that the "X" represents the cross Christ was crucified on has no basis in fact; regardless, St Andrew's Cross is X-shaped, but Christ's cross was probably shaped like a T or a ?. Indeed, X-as-chi was associated with Christ long before X-as-cross could be, since the cross as a Christian symbol developed later. (The Greek letter Chi ? stood for "Christ" in the ancient Greek acrostic ??T?S ichthys.) While some see the spelling of Christmas as Xmas a threat, others see it as a way to honor the martyrs. The use of X as an abbreviation for "cross" in modern abbreviated writing (e.g. "Kings X" for "Kings Cross") may have reinforced this assumption.

In ancient Christian art ? and ?? are abbreviations for Christ's name.[citation needed] In many manuscripts of the New Testament and icons, X is an abbreviation for Christos, as is XC (the first and last letters in Greek, using the lunate sigma); compare IC for Jesus in Greek. The Oxford English Dictionary documents the use of this abbreviation back to 1551, 50 years before the first English colonists came to North America and 60 years before the King James Version of the Bible was completed. At the same time, Xian and Xianity were in frequent use as abbreviations of "Christian" and "Christianity"; and nowadays still are sometimes so used, but much less than "Xmas". The proper names containing the name "Christ" other than aforementioned are rarely abbreviated in this way (e.g. Hayden Xensen for the actor name "Hayden Christensen"). Pop artist Christina Aguilera is known to spell her first name as 'Xtina'.

This apparent usage of "X" to spell the syllable "kris" (rather than the sounds "ks") has extended to "xtal" for "crystal", and on florists' signs "xant" for "chrysanthemum"[citation needed] (though these words are not etymologically related to "Christ"; "crystal" comes from a Greek word meaning "ice", and "chrysanthemum" from Greek words meaning "golden flower", while "Christ" comes from a Greek word meaning "anointed").

In the animated television show Futurama, which is set in the 31st century, Xmas is the official name for the day formerly known as Christmas (which has become an "archaic pronunciation").


 

compuwiz1

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Almost nobody really understands, or celebrates what Christmas is all about anymore.

It's all about, an enormous excuse, to spend profuse amounts of money, on lame stuff, by lame people, who have no fscking clue, as to what the date is all about.

I will leave it at that. :shocked:
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Almost nobody really understands, or celebrates what Christmas is all about anymore.

It's all about, an enormous excuse, to spend profuse amounts of money, on lame stuff, by lame people, who have no fscking clue, as to what the date is all about.

I will leave it at that. :shocked:

I agree completely! I, for one, plan to enjoy a nice dinner to celebrate Saturnalia, and mark the passing of the Winter Solstice with tribute to the Earth Mother.

This newfangled Christian bullshit that was grafted onto a preexisting holiday needs to GO.
 

d2arcturus

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What's in a name? Letters. Who cares.

They could call it Sh*tmas and I wouldn't think twice about it.
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Almost nobody really understands, or celebrates what Christmas is all about anymore.

It's all about, an enormous excuse, to spend profuse amounts of money, on lame stuff, by lame people, who have no fscking clue, as to what the date is all about.

I will leave it at that. :shocked:

I agree completely! I, for one, plan to enjoy a nice dinner to celebrate Saturnalia, and mark the passing of the Winter Solstice with tribute to the Earth Mother.

This newfangled Christian bullshit that was grafted onto a preexisting holiday needs to GO.

I laughed so hard, I almost gave myself a hernia, not to give you credit, of course. ;) :p