Xmas gift idea: messing with a wedding video in bad taste?

[slackerinabox]

So I'm a broke ass/ unemployed mofo with a lot of analog and digital video editing gear. I also am a media studies major so I know my way around avid/ final cut pro/ after effects.. Since I don't have any money I was thinking about doing a "brother's cut" of my sister's wedding.. My sister got married a few years back and had a great wedding - unfortunatly she wanted to "keep it in the race" and hired an indian videographer instead of the best videographer (regardless of race)... So the dude filled the video with really tacky "indian-ized" special effects and used terrible indian pop music that was out of date then (and is laughably out of date now)... So my plan is to capture the whole wedding and artistically edit the whole thing: add elegant transitions instead of the split scene crap he did, replace any pop music that he added with classical, making the images less shakey/etc. To be clear I do not want to change the actual events of the wedding - any music that was recorded live will stay, etc. Is this a good idea or in bad taste? Should I just xfer it to dvd and leave it alone?

 

[konichiwa]

Sounds good to me. Don't get rid of the old one of course but...sounds nice

 

[dquan97]

I think that'd be a nice gift...I'm getting an amateur friend of mine to do my wedding video editing. Got 4hrs worth of video.

 

[Fausto]

I'd say it's a pretty good idea. It's not like you're splicing in pr0n or anything. 😛

If the original is that lame, I say go for it.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: dquan97
I think that'd be a nice gift...I'm getting an amateur friend of mine to do my wedding video editing. Got 4hrs worth of video.

Word of advice: copy the video (dv) and give him copies to edit.. When I was a total n00b I would constantly lose tapes and erase footage by mistake..

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: Fausto
I'd say it's a pretty good idea. It's not like you're splicing in pr0n or anything. 😛

If the original is that lame, I say go for it.

at first I thought it would be one where you splice in pr0n, that'd be in bad taste.
What you are proposing is actually in GOOD TASTE. I mean she'll still have the one she paid for AND one made by her brother. :thumbsup;

 

[BooGiMaN]

i think thats a heck of a nice gift

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: Fausto
It's not like you're splicing in pr0n or anything. 😛

Dammit, there goes that idea! Stop stifling my artistic vision! 😉

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
i think thats a heck of a nice gift

the word is "hella", use it right! 😉

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: fivespeed5

Originally posted by: Fausto
I'd say it's a pretty good idea. It's not like you're splicing in pr0n or anything. 😛

If the original is that lame, I say go for it.

at first I thought it would be one where you splice in pr0n, that'd be in bad taste.
What you are proposing is actually in GOOD TASTE. I mean she'll still have the one she paid for AND one made by her brother. :thumbsup;

Thanks for the support guys - I wouldn't touch her original video (well, there are over 20 "originals" floating around) and would be outputting to DVD anyways, but I'm worried about my sister getting all bitchy on me.. Don't get me wrong.. My sister is da b to the omb but she gets a little .. . anxious at times.. I'm terrified that she's going to say "What, my original video's not good enough for you?" or something like that.. And I'm afraid that my good intent will be viewed as snobby filmschoolism... know what I mean? like i'm saying that something that's sentimental to her sucks and that I could do a better version...

 

[dquan97]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: dquan97
I think that'd be a nice gift...I'm getting an amateur friend of mine to do my wedding video editing. Got 4hrs worth of video.

Word of advice: copy the video (dv) and give him copies to edit.. When I was a total n00b I would constantly lose tapes and erase footage by mistake..

I separated the dv into 4parts. I burnt the first part on a dvd and gave it to him.

Here's a question: on Vegas Video, after editing a video to remove commercials and rendering the result, why doesn't the video and audio match up even though it plays fine on the application?

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: dquan97

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: dquan97
I think that'd be a nice gift...I'm getting an amateur friend of mine to do my wedding video editing. Got 4hrs worth of video.

Word of advice: copy the video (dv) and give him copies to edit.. When I was a total n00b I would constantly lose tapes and erase footage by mistake..

I separated the dv into 4parts. I burnt the first part on a dvd and gave it to him.

Here's a question: on Vegas Video, after editing a video to remove commercials and rendering the result, why doesn't the video and audio match up even though it plays fine on the application?

What's your hardware? I noticed sync problems using bad hardware regardless of the software used... Hardware as in capture hardware.. I had a "hella" time editing using an analog "dazzle" card... DV should have locked audio and, well, firewire is firewire... Also, what format to what format (are you capturing in mpeg2 and then outputting to an avi codec such as divX?)/

 

[dquan97]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: dquan97

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: dquan97
I think that'd be a nice gift...I'm getting an amateur friend of mine to do my wedding video editing. Got 4hrs worth of video.

Word of advice: copy the video (dv) and give him copies to edit.. When I was a total n00b I would constantly lose tapes and erase footage by mistake..

I separated the dv into 4parts. I burnt the first part on a dvd and gave it to him.

Here's a question: on Vegas Video, after editing a video to remove commercials and rendering the result, why doesn't the video and audio match up even though it plays fine on the application?

What's your hardware? I noticed sync problems using bad hardware regardless of the software used... Hardware as in capture hardware.. I had a "hella" time editing using an analog "dazzle" card... DV should have locked audio and, well, firewire is firewire... Also, what format to what format (are you capturing in mpeg2 and then outputting to an avi codec such as divX?)/

The original tape was on a Hi-8, converted to VHS, then to DV. Streamed the DV via Firewire as an avi (16bit PCM audio, video: 29fps frame rate, 1536kbps bit rate, 720x480 size). Rendered as both avi and mpeg-both have sync problems

 

[dquan97]

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[kranky]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Thanks for the support guys - I wouldn't touch her original video (well, there are over 20 "originals" floating around) and would be outputting to DVD anyways, but I'm worried about my sister getting all bitchy on me.. Don't get me wrong.. My sister is da b to the omb but she gets a little .. . anxious at times.. I'm terrified that she's going to say "What, my original video's not good enough for you?" or something like that.. And I'm afraid that my good intent will be viewed as snobby filmschoolism... know what I mean? like i'm saying that something that's sentimental to her sucks and that I could do a better version...

If you are concerned that she might think your work means you thought the original wasn't good enough, then you better be prepared for that possibility. Maybe what you consider "improvement" she would call "ruining". After all, she did get exactly what she wanted the first time, right? The special effects, the music, etc.?

But since you can't know ahead of time how she might react, try not to give her the idea that you think you are improving the original. How about telling her that since you have learned a lot about working with video, you wanted to put your skills to use, and since you really thought her wedding was very nice you thought you would apply your skills to her wedding videos. Say it in a non-judgmental way, and don't say you wanted to improve on it or do it better than the other guy. No matter what, there is a risk, but I think it's worth doing anyway. Nice idea for a gift.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: dquan97

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: dquan97

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: dquan97
I think that'd be a nice gift...I'm getting an amateur friend of mine to do my wedding video editing. Got 4hrs worth of video.

Word of advice: copy the video (dv) and give him copies to edit.. When I was a total n00b I would constantly lose tapes and erase footage by mistake..

I separated the dv into 4parts. I burnt the first part on a dvd and gave it to him.

Here's a question: on Vegas Video, after editing a video to remove commercials and rendering the result, why doesn't the video and audio match up even though it plays fine on the application?

What's your hardware? I noticed sync problems using bad hardware regardless of the software used... Hardware as in capture hardware.. I had a "hella" time editing using an analog "dazzle" card... DV should have locked audio and, well, firewire is firewire... Also, what format to what format (are you capturing in mpeg2 and then outputting to an avi codec such as divX?)/

The original tape was on a Hi-8, converted to VHS, then to DV. Streamed the DV via Firewire as an avi (16bit PCM audio, video: 29fps frame rate, 1536kbps bit rate, 720x480 size). Rendered as both avi and mpeg-both have sync problems

Hey, sorry for the delay in replying - still working on some final papers... OK.. So how does your footage looked when captured straight to avi? Is the sound fine after you capture the footage? Does the sound only screw up after you do some edits? Perhaps you're capturing or editing at the wrong frame rate? I don't use Vegas Video but premiere has project settings - if one hidden setting is a bit off the sound will be off a bit too.. double check the frame rate settings and then be sure that you're editing in NTSC and not pal (every step of the way- check capture settings AND export settings)..

 

[virtuamike]

When you make the DVD, author it so both versions are on the DVD, original and enhanced 🙂