Xion or Rosewill... or not

Kekewy

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I'm looking for a modular PSU for my new build and I've found two I like. I just need a little help deciding between the two. My new build will have the following parts:
ASUS EVO 790X mobo
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
4 gig OCZ Platinum memory
Graphics card is yet undetermined but will be upgraded to top of the line within a year

The two PSUs I'm looking at are a Rosewill BRONZE series RBR750-M 750W and a XION Supernova XON-800R14N 800W. Both have good reveiws and are the same price, but I'm not very familiar with the Xion brand. I want to make sure I get a reliable brand. Has anyone heard anything about XION?
 
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theAnimal

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My recommendation would be Antec Truepower New, much better quality than either of those. The 550W would be plenty for a single GPU.
 

CurseTheSky

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Good reviews on Newegg != good power supply.

Go with a trusted brand like Seasonic, Corsair, Antec, etc.
 

TreyRandom

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Neither. As the previous responders mentioned, go with a trusted brand, like Enermax, Seasonic, or Antec.
 

Jhatfie

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Rosewill has a few "decent" power supplies, even jonnyguru had some decent things to say about a couple of them. True they are not the best, but some units are respectable for their price range. Not everyone has $90 -150 to spend on a super high quality power supply. So question for the OP is what is your budget?

Yes. generally brands based on the most recent Seasonic and Channel Well Platforms and even the recent Delta PSU platforms (Antec Earthwatts) such as Seasonic, Antec TruePower, Corsair and Thermaltake Toughpower are your best bets (Enermax as well, but they make their own PSU's as far as I know), but some cheaper units are acceptable for most users as well.

But I also agree with others, do not let Newegg user reviews dictate anything, most people that post have limited knowledge.
 
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Kekewy

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My budget is 200 or less for a PSU. I'm wanting to keep myself open to use crossfire if need be. I want something 700 watt or better, modular with enough cables to hook up two high end graphics cards, a hard drive, a blue ray player, and a dvd burner. Also, and this is just my pickiness, I'd prefer it be grey. If you know of any PSUs that would meet those requirments, let me know.
 

Kekewy

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:eek: You can get up to a decent 1200W PSU for that much money!

That's modular? Where? I'm picky about the color of it as well. If you show me a modular, grey 1200W PSU for 200 or less, I'd buy it on the spot.
 

Jhatfie

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Superb Modular PSU's for under $200 will be no problem, finding a plain grey one will be tough, most of the good ones worth getting seem to be painted black or dark grey.
 

CurseTheSky

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Well, you can either have a black, quality PSU now, or your gray junk PSU can turn black when it burns up. :p

If I was buying a PSU today for a high end system, this would be my choice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151087

This Thermaltake TR2 is gray in color, though I have no idea who it's made by and thus what quality the internals are. Search for reviews before buying. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153117

I can't tell if this OCZ ModXtreme is gray or matte black, but it may be another option. I believe it's of mediocre quality, at best. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341018

Even though I've suggested a couple of alternatives, I would highly suggest that you dump the color requirement and strictly go for reliability and performance. It's like putting tires on a car - you can either go with the ones that look cool with the brightly embossed name on the sides, or the ones that perform well. After it's all said and done, which ones will actually improve your experience?
 

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Antec Truepower New 750. The best value no doubt, $90 AR. pics look black but it's more of a dark grey IRL, and mostly modular (the stuff you need to use no matter what is hardwired, all extra stuff is modular
 

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XFX Black 850W is Grey, if you can stand the neon green fan
BFG ES-800 is a really shiny Grey
Topower Powerbird is also shiny grey
 

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This thread fails.

$200 on a PSU and the names rosewill and xion are options, what is the world coming too.
 

Kekewy

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I decided not to go with either of the two PSUs I orginally wanted at everyone's advice. I did some more looking and found a Thermaltake Toughpower XT that's 750W. It has all the connectors I want, and seems to be a good brand. Is this one a more reliable choice?
 

HOOfan 1

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as long as it has an aggressive price...Thermaltake tends to overcharge. The 775W version will be even newer..as it is a newer and more efficient design
 

Kekewy

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as long as it has an aggressive price...Thermaltake tends to overcharge. The 775W version will be even newer..as it is a newer and more efficient design

I'll check out the 775W. The 750w is very competitively priced. I found it on Newegg for 154 plus shipping, that's within a few dollars of the Enermax I was also looking at.
 

Meghan54

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Seriously, if I were even considering a Tt 775, and my budget was $200, the Seasonic X750 would be the first power supply on my list.

The second would be the Corsair 850HX. Then the Corsair 750HX. Next would be the Antec TPN-750.

Why not the Tt 775? Too many Chinese capacitors. All the secondary are Teapo and Jun Fu....and only one Japanese cap, the main. Granted, the ps performs well, but why pay for Chinese when better quality Japanese caps are in units in your price range.

And all the units I mentioned, both Corsairs, the Antec and Seasonic, have all Japanese caps in them...not a trace of Chinese caps anywhere to be found.

And, I know the warranty provided by both Corsair and Antec will be honored and quickly. Not saying Tt won't, but Corsair and Antec both are very, very quick to replace units, even for something as simple as "weird" sounding fans.
 

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I looked at all those power supplies you listed Meghan. I couldn't find a TPN-750, but I found a TP-750, are they the same? Also, none of your top three were listed as crossfire ready. That's definately an option I'd like to keep open to myself down the road. Even though they're not listed as being crossfire ready, will any of those three do crossfire well?
 

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They will ALL CF very well. Those are top tier brands. You do realize that crossfire ready certification is nothing but a marketing gimmick right? Like SLI ready memory. It means nothing.

Rosewill and Xion are some of the lowest tier names in PSU manufacturing. While SeaSonic, Corsair, Antec, PC Power and Cooling, these guys are the big players who put out a quality product.
 

Kekewy

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They will ALL CF very well. Those are top tier brands. You do realize that crossfire ready certification is nothing but a marketing gimmick right? Like SLI ready memory. It means nothing.

I thought that was the case, but I wanted be sure. Never know what's a gimmick and what's a requirement. Thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind from now on. ^_^
 

Meghan54

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They will ALL CF very well. Those are top tier brands. You do realize that crossfire ready certification is nothing but a marketing gimmick right? Like SLI ready memory. It means nothing.

Well, that's sort of right and sort of wrong. While a lot of power supplies will list themselves as SLI-ready or Crossfire-ready, to be certified entails the ps company actually sending units to either ATI or nVidia for testing and certification. And both companies charge for this certification, much like the 80Plus organization charges for their testing and certs. for efficiency ratings.

And usually you'll see a power supply certified as SLI or Crossfire, not both. That's due to both companies not wanting both of their logos appearing on boxes side by side. But getting certified by one means it'll pass the other's cert.

As for memory being "SLI-ready,' yes, that's a pure marketing gimmick. And from all the memory I've come across from Mushkin, Corsair, G. Skill, OCZ, Kingston, Crucial...the only one that puts "SLI-ready" on its memory is OCZ.



I looked at all those power supplies you listed Meghan. I couldn't find a TPN-750, but I found a TP-750, are they the same? Also, none of your top three were listed as crossfire ready. That's definately an option I'd like to keep open to myself down the road. Even though they're not listed as being crossfire ready, will any of those three do crossfire well?



Yes, the TP-750 is what I referred to as the TPN-750....True Power New. Just as Antec has used the word "New" in their description of that ps to distinguish it from previous iterations of the True Power, I use TPN to make sure one knows I'm not speaking about anything but the True Power New. Previous versions of the True Power from Antec were less than overwhelming in their performance and were a far cry from this newest version of the TP.

And, yes, it will Crossfire. And it is listed on ATI's site as certified for Crossfire. But even if it wasn't, it's a high quality power supply with enough amps on each +12V rail to handle Crossfire within reason....I wouldn't try using it with a pair of 5970's, obviously.

What both ATI and nVidia are trying to accomplish with their SLI/Crossfire cert. of power supplies is to keep people from buying inadequate or poorly designed power supplies and trying to Crossfire/SLI with them and having horrible failures.

But, even buying from a "name brand" doesn't always keep failures from happening. PC Power and Cooling's first attempt at a 1kw power supply is an example. It was a tri-railed power supply that was badly designed in its rail distribution. It put all the PCI-e, SATA, and Molex connections on one rail which could only support 35A on it. So, when people began SLI'ing a pair of like 8800GTX video cards, the power supply would shut down during heavy use, like in gaming.

PCP&C's solution wasn't to fix the rail distribution but to make it a single rail power supply...the "easy and cheap" fix.

But, all three I listed will Crossfire/SLI within reason, as mentioned.
 

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Rosewill and Xion are some of the lowest tier names in PSU manufacturing. While SeaSonic, Corsair, Antec, PC Power and Cooling, these guys are the big players who put out a quality product.

I'd have to disagree about some of Rosewill's PSUs. I've known a few people who have bought them due to budgets, and they've been very well built, reliable PSUs from what I've seen. I know one of these has been working for 4+ years now. I'm sure SOME of their products are junk, but some are actually pretty decent.

That said, if I had a $200 budget, I wouldn't have Rosewill on my list. But for budget PSUs around $50 (give or take $10-15), they've put out some decent products.

Even outside of PSUs, I've ordered some Rosewill stuff that's been both cheap and excellent.

Edit: There are a couple Rosewill PSU reviews on Jonnyguru that are pretty positive. I also just ordered the RG530-S12 for $50. A review for it states it's pretty good:

http://tinyurl.com/yl5xfuj
 
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Antec Truepower New 750. The best value no doubt, $90 AR. pics look black but it's more of a dark grey IRL, and mostly modular (the stuff you need to use no matter what is hardwired, all extra stuff is modular

I second that. Good efficiency, low noise/ripple, quite, small(size) for a 750 W PSU. It is marketed as semi modular but you won't use any modular cables unless you are into crossfire/sli. In fact, you need to find some space to hide a bunch of extra cables in your case. If you are fixed on modular look away from this unit.

If you are picky about modular PSU then I will suggest seasonic X750 for the price.