Xeon X32xx Quad-Cores

qliveur

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Currently at Newegg the Xeon X3210 and X3220 are $260 (after shipping) and $300 respectively. That's a savings of $60 if you're willing to get a chip with an 8x multi or $20 if you're not. Is there any real difference between these Socket 775 quad-core Xeons and the Q6xxx?
 

Shimmishim

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they are pretty much identical. xeon's are supposed to be server chips but work fine in desktop motherboards.
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: Shimmishim
they are pretty much identical. xeon's are supposed to be server chips but work fine in desktop motherboards.

So they actually work in a desktop board...interesting
 

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i have both Xeons. I absolutely love my X3220. The X3210 is going to be a slight bit of a pain with a lower multi if overclocking is your forte.

The X3220 is in my Gigabyte P35-DQ6
And the X3210 is on a Abit IP35-E
 

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what is the difference between the xeon and the C2Q at an architectural level?

If theres nothing, then it shouldn't be a problem buying one for desktop use.
 

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Don't over simplify when talking about the latest batch of Xeons because there's a cacth.

There's those which are 775 socket versions and those which are 771.

Only the 775 will work in a socket 775 desktop board.

Apart from that they're identical save for the name and perhaps, though arguable, a better binning process hence in theory better yields.

Only the real heavy weight Xeons are different from desktop chips really.
 

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Originally posted by: GFORCE100
Don't over simplify when talking about the latest batch of Xeons because there's a cacth.

There's those which are 775 socket versions and those which are 771.

Only the 775 will work in a socket 775 desktop board.

Apart from that they're identical save for the name and perhaps, though arguable, a better binning process hence in theory better yields.

Only the real heavy weight Xeons are different from desktop chips really.

very true...

a clover will pwn a xeon kentsfield.

too bad tho, there isnt a board which allows you to overclock on a 771 platform.
 

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: GFORCE100
Don't over simplify when talking about the latest batch of Xeons because there's a cacth.

There's those which are 775 socket versions and those which are 771.

Only the 775 will work in a socket 775 desktop board.

Apart from that they're identical save for the name and perhaps, though arguable, a better binning process hence in theory better yields.

Only the real heavy weight Xeons are different from desktop chips really.

very true...

a clover will pwn a xeon kentsfield.

too bad tho, there isnt a board which allows you to overclock on a 771 platform.


:confused:

its the same architecture just a different socket. as far as performance goes 1QP kentsfield = 1QP clovertown. there is no performance difference. the good thing about 771 is you get to have more than 1 chip, therefore more cores. the bad thing is you dont get to overclock.



EDIT
actually, 1QP clovertown will be slower clock per clock since it has to use crappy FBDIMM, while kentsfield can be fed with DDR3.
 

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
i have both Xeons. I absolutely love my X3220. The X3210 is going to be a slight bit of a pain with a lower multi if overclocking is your forte.

The X3220 is in my Gigabyte P35-DQ6
And the X3210 is on a Abit IP35-E

Would you get a Q6600 or a X3220? Lets say I want to overclock and am looking to get 3.4Ghz which would have the best chance of doing it? 3.2Ghz is acceptable as I'm not greedy, but 3.4 would be nice to me.
 

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The Xeons are supposedly higher binned chips than the consumer-level stuff, better tolerance to high temps, less voltage hungry, more reliable. If prices are the same, the 3220 should be the way to go.

You can find 3210s for $250ish now (8x multi, 3.2 is probably do-able with a good board).
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
The Xeons are supposedly higher binned chips than the consumer-level stuff, better tolerance to high temps, less voltage hungry, more reliable. If prices are the same, the 3220 should be the way to go.

You can find 3210s for $250ish now (8x multi, 3.2 is probably do-able with a good board).

Well, if my board can take this very early release E6400 to 3.2 with no sweat surely a refined Xeon X3210 should be ok at that level right?
 

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: aigomorla
i have both Xeons. I absolutely love my X3220. The X3210 is going to be a slight bit of a pain with a lower multi if overclocking is your forte.

The X3220 is in my Gigabyte P35-DQ6
And the X3210 is on a Abit IP35-E

Would you get a Q6600 or a X3220? Lets say I want to overclock and am looking to get 3.4Ghz which would have the best chance of doing it? 3.2Ghz is acceptable as I'm not greedy, but 3.4 would be nice to me.





X3220 hands down... my best friend just bought one, and he has it running 3.4 Gig easily.
just bought it from the Egg NewEgg.. is giving them away at $300.00 He put it on a ASUS P5B Premium Vista Edition and he is unlocked on the Multiplier... Yeeee Hawww !

No issues with the board either I know many others have not been so lucky.
 

Dethfrumbelo

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Maybe. Hard to call since it's apples to oranges - the 6400 is dual and the 3210 is quad.

If I could find a place where G0 stepping is confirmed I'd be inclined to pick up a 3120. Why pay $210+ for an equivalent dualcore (E6750, 8x multi), when you can get a quad for only $40 more.
 

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
The Xeons are supposedly higher binned chips than the consumer-level stuff, better tolerance to high temps, less voltage hungry, more reliable. If prices are the same, the 3220 should be the way to go.

You can find 3210s for $250ish now (8x multi, 3.2 is probably do-able with a good board).

Well, if my board can take this very early release E6400 to 3.2 with no sweat surely a refined Xeon X3210 should be ok at that level right?

Its a lot more stress on the north bridge, but yes your mobo should handle it fine.
 

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It's about time that NewEgg finally got some 3210 chips in. NCIXUS has had them already for some time now, at $225 + shipping. Now if I could only guarantee a G0 stepping, then I would buy one. I'm going to wait though.
 

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: aigomorla
i have both Xeons. I absolutely love my X3220. The X3210 is going to be a slight bit of a pain with a lower multi if overclocking is your forte.

The X3220 is in my Gigabyte P35-DQ6
And the X3210 is on a Abit IP35-E

Would you get a Q6600 or a X3220? Lets say I want to overclock and am looking to get 3.4Ghz which would have the best chance of doing it? 3.2Ghz is acceptable as I'm not greedy, but 3.4 would be nice to me.

3.4ghz is hard. 3.6ghz is easier due to a lot of FSB straps and other stuff.

I couldnt get a stable overclock from 3.375-3.59999 ghz.

I would realistically aim at 3.375 as the high end on air. Xeon's shouldnt have much issues running 375fsb @ 1.375-1.41Vcore.

Same would go with the Q6600, but for some wierd reason, the X3220's are cheaper then the Q6600 right now.
 

cmdrdredd

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well, the IP35 FSB Strap is linked to memory divider...I can run 1333 or 1066 deending if I do 1:1 or 1:1.25 or whatnot. That's not an issue. The issue for me is stability of the cores at that frequency. 3.2Ghz would be fine for me...the 2 extra cores is the draw in.
 

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
well, the IP35 FSB Strap is linked to memory divider...I can run 1333 or 1066 deending if I do 1:1 or 1:1.25 or whatnot. That's not an issue. The issue for me is stability of the cores at that frequency. 3.2Ghz would be fine for me...the 2 extra cores is the draw in.

if thats all your aiming for, i would just get whatever is cheaper. However you own a TR120 with a insane fan. I would think 3.375 would be a better target on any stepping with that kind of cooling.

Might even be able to pull off 3.6ghz on a good G0 bin. Im going to wait for either yorkie when it comes out in X6950. Or wait til my BM Frys starts carrying B batches. Right now i think there all A.
 

qliveur

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So I guess that there's very little if any difference between an X3220 and a Q6600. I thought as much but wanted to be sure. I appreciate the input from everyone.:)
 

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As soon as I find a guaranteed G0 3210, its mine !
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
As soon as I find a guaranteed G0 3210, its mine !

agreed!

been eye-ing provantage for a while to see if they'll change the specs page to read G0