Xeon E3110 or E8400

[Ike0069]

I know this has been discussed in the past but I am new to the Intel scene, so I'm not really familar with the Xenon and any advantages it may offer over a "regular" desktop chip.

It appears that the Xenon's start at a lower Vcore typically which is always means less heat, but not necessarily more max OC potential. Although I think starting lower gives a definite advantage for keeping the vcore lower when not trying to go for extreme OC's.

I would be very happy with 4.0 and it seems that some of the newer 8400's are struggling to get there, so maybe the Xenon would have a better chance while keeping the vcore lower.

Thoughts?

 

[Don66]

My e3110 is running @ 4.0Ghz.
Easiest OC I've ever done.
Voltage in bios is 1.3 for the cpu.

 

[tr1kstanc3]

I have the Xeon 3110 clocked at 4ghz @ 1.22v. Awesome.

 

[Winterpool]

I bought a Xeon E3110 principally because it was the only Wolfdale available for a reasonable price back in the late winter. Also, I'm not a big fan of the number 8.

As an ostensible server chip, the Xeon perhaps comprises the 'superior' binned chips, but there's little evidence for that. Intel officially lists a narrower VID range for the Xeon, topping out at 1.225 V. Some people have speculated, like you, that even if the overclocking limits are the same, they might achieve comparable clockspeeds at lower voltages.

Unfortunately, Core Temp reports 1.225 V as my Xeon's VID! I am running at the 'default' Abit IP35-E clockspeed of 3.06 GHz, ranging between 1.13 and 1.19 V. I've not tried real overclocking yet (it's too warm here now), but I feel sceptical that I'll be able to obtain 3.6 GHz at < 1.3 V.

Would anyone else care to report the VID for their Xeon E3110? And the real-life voltages it's taken to achieve their overclocks?

There was recently a case of a P35 board refusing to work with the Xeon but then getting on fine with the E8400. On the other hand, it was an ASRock board, and I've never trusted them. You may want to check on reports of your board with the Xeon.

 

[M1A]

I cannot speak for the e3110 but I have had very good luck with my e8400. had a bit of playing with memory and voltages but I am settled in for the last 3 months at 467x9 with 1.36v bios and purring like a kitten. I also heard good stuff about the e8500 if you can find one. These chips are the best overclockers in a while. You should be happy with eather one.

 

[bryanW1995]

get whichever one is cheaper. I have a Q9450 and an X3350. They have a .0225 difference in vid but are otherwise identical.

 

[Ike0069]

The 8400 is slightly cheaper ( $11 at Newegg - haven't really shopped around though), but still more expensive than the $183 Intel gives as the 'suggested' retail price.

Edit:
After checking Newegg again, since this morning they have dropped the price on the 8400 $5 to $189.99, so now the difference is $16.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Winterpool
I'm not a big fan of the number 8.

LOL

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
get whichever one is cheaper.

That's exactly what I'd do. You guys are thinking too much into this. Simple matter really.

Originally posted by: Ike0069
The 8400 is slightly cheaper ( $11 at Newegg - haven't really shopped around though), but still more expensive than the $183 Intel gives as the 'suggested' retail price.

$183 is Intel's selling price to Newegg in quantities of 1000, not an MSRP.

Note that real costs may be higher (due to transportation) or lower (10,000 quantity, or OEM versions).

 

[Winterpool]

$183 is Intel's selling price to Newegg in quantities of 1000, not an MSRP.

Note that real costs may be higher (due to transportation) or lower (10,000 quantity, or OEM versions).

The prices we all laugh and cry over when they're leaked online -- those are 'tray' prices. As Zap has remarked, these are basically wholesale prices in batches of 1000.

If the price history of the E6750 is anything to go by (same tray price as the E8400), we should see the Wolfdale floating round the Newegg retail price of $190. Until Nehalem, this is probably going to be the online 'retail price' for 3 GHz Wolfdales. Your local Fry's or Micro Centre price may vary.

 

[Homer Simpson]

Originally posted by: Winterpool
Your local Fry's or Micro Centre price may vary.

nope. got an e8400 for $189 at microcenter two nights ago