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Xeon 2.8GHZ w/2MB cache is amazingly cheap...
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Xeon MP is capable of 2-way and 4-way SMP, and all Xeons are tested for stability, because they must perform seamlessly in an enterprise environment.
Originally posted by: Budman
Are you saying Desktop P4's are unstable?
The validation procesdures for server chips are far more rigorous than for desktop chips.
Yes they do. They dont check a few samples out of each batch of Xeons (unlike P4 validation), when they are manufactured, they test all of them.
Originally posted by: Lyfer
$4,889.85 @ cdw.com
I wonder how much the new Extreme Edition P4 is gonna cost.
Doesn't anybody read the Anandtech front page anymore?
http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.html?i=1870
This is no different than the segmentation based on volume and MP capability performed by the rest of the industry. The Opteron 146 and 846 share the exact same die and clock speed. The latter supports 8-way MP and costs $3199, the former has MP fused off and costs $669.
Originally posted by: Lyfer
Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: Budman
Are you saying Desktop P4's are unstable?
The validation procesdures for server chips are far more rigorous than for desktop chips.
That nice, but they sure charge alot for that validation.
It's all a matter of who you're selling to, rather than what you're selling.
When selling to you or me, Intel would be hard pressed to charge $2.500 for a CPU.
Well, for at least.
When selling to a fortune 500 company, charging $2.500 is no problem, as long as you can assure the company that it'll be working well.
Who f-cking cares $700+ bucks for a couple extra frames maybe 10 sec in photoshop, 15 sec in TMPGEnc. If you got over 700 beans burning a hole in your pocket buy a new video card,raid card, hard drives,speakers,case or a new monitor. By the way how high does this $700+ waste overclock? If it's a cheap xeon mp (ie not dullie crippled) then I will be the first in line but intel would never do that to all their enterprise customers. So don't get your boxers in a bunch.
Hey smart a$$ the point is this cpu is W-A-S-T-E of money. Repeat after me W-A-S-T-E of money. Unless you are rich in which case the money is no object. I belive this thread was about the price of said cpu. So it's you who should get a " clue "
You think 700$ for a CPU is expensive? Think about a 100K a year engineer! Getting a 100K a year engineer to do his work even 1-2% faster would be worth 700$. That's the logic behind such chips.
For the performance fanatic, though.... Computers are their hobby and they're willing to throw obscene amounts of money at it, just like cars.
Originally posted by: OmegaRedd
Hey smart a$$ the point is this cpu is W-A-S-T-E of money. Repeat after me W-A-S-T-E of money. Unless you are rich in which case the money is no object. I belive this thread was about the price of said cpu. So it's you who should get a " clue "
Man are you really this stupid? The thread wasn't about desktop CPUs, it's about the price of the Xeon. And it's not a waste of money to the people who NEED to use it. When you're in an enterprise situation, even downtime of 1% can be costly. Can you imagine what would happen to the airports if they had their system failing 1% of the time? Or even 0.1% of the time?
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: OmegaRedd
Hey smart a$$ the point is this cpu is W-A-S-T-E of money. Repeat after me W-A-S-T-E of money. Unless you are rich in which case the money is no object. I belive this thread was about the price of said cpu. So it's you who should get a " clue "
Man are you really this stupid? The thread wasn't about desktop CPUs, it's about the price of the Xeon. And it's not a waste of money to the people who NEED to use it. When you're in an enterprise situation, even downtime of 1% can be costly. Can you imagine what would happen to the airports if they had their system failing 1% of the time? Or even 0.1% of the time?
You don't have a clue about IT or budgets. Think you just go to comp usa and pop in a couple of cpu's into your servers and the boss just says duh ok here's the cash?
Originally posted by: OmegaRedd
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: OmegaRedd
Hey smart a$$ the point is this cpu is W-A-S-T-E of money. Repeat after me W-A-S-T-E of money. Unless you are rich in which case the money is no object. I belive this thread was about the price of said cpu. So it's you who should get a " clue "
Man are you really this stupid? The thread wasn't about desktop CPUs, it's about the price of the Xeon. And it's not a waste of money to the people who NEED to use it. When you're in an enterprise situation, even downtime of 1% can be costly. Can you imagine what would happen to the airports if they had their system failing 1% of the time? Or even 0.1% of the time?
You don't have a clue about IT or budgets. Think you just go to comp usa and pop in a couple of cpu's into your servers and the boss just says duh ok here's the cash?
LOLOL alright, it's pretty damn obvious you're clueless, so i'm out. LOL
I was being sarcastic about the price read between the lines. Only big budget IT depts have the cash for this cpu and you still have to convince the boss why you need this cpu. Most companies are laying off workers and you think they are going to buy new cpu's for their workstations/servers. Moralpanic if you know a company with money to waste then my resume is in the mail.
It's simple. A graphics artist who's waiting 1 hour for render times could do well to shave 5 minutes on that. Might be worth 700$, espically if they earn big and the company pays for their every minute.
LOL it has nothing to do with having money to waste, but if the company NEEDS or believes they need it. Obviously some do, because server level CPUs have been around since the beginning. LOLOL
Last Iheard IT heads where creaming for the opteron. Why because it's cheaper. Most IT's are still running windows nt so don't tell me money is not a very big factor. How can I put it in terms you will understand IT heads are cheap running old hardware with little to no overhead and to few techs or getting raw just out of school IT personal. Then clipping them before they become permanent employee's. Just to save on benifits.
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