xeon 1230 v2 mini itx

[dragantoe]

what would be the cheapest mini itx mobo compatible with the intel xeon 1230 v2, I want to build a mini itx system and if i can't overclock in it i decided why not go with this cpu as it's the same as the 3770 minus integrated gpu

edit: it's for gaming

 

[max347]

Are you buying the xeon for eec memory capability?

 

[dragantoe]

Are you buying the xeon for eec memory capability?

no it's for gaming, I should have put that in the top

 

[Zap]

AFAIK any board that supports Ivy Bridge can support that Xeon.

Why can't you overclock with mini ITX? I do it all the time.

If you have a Micro Center near you, they sell a 3770K for $229.99.

 

[dragantoe]

AFAIK any board that supports Ivy Bridge can support that Xeon.

Why can't you overclock with mini ITX? I do it all the time.

If you have a Micro Center near you, they sell a 3770K for $229.99.

I know it's possible to overclock on mini itx, but I'm building a computer in a cooler master elite 120 which has almost no room for a heatsink except slim ones, and i have no microcenter near me, also, not every ivy bridge desktop board supports xeon

 

[crashtech]

E3-12x0V2 is in supported CPU list:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131878

I've never seen an Ivy supporting board fail to boot with an E3-12xxV2, but I guess you never know.

 

[dragantoe]

E3-12x0V2 is in supported CPU list:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131878

I've never seen an Ivy supporting board fail to boot with an E3-12xxV2, but I guess you never know.

that's awesome, I'll go with it, thanks!

 

[Insert_Nickname]

why not go with this cpu as it's the same as the 3770 minus integrated gpu

No it isn't. The 3770non-K is clocked at 3.4GHz and has turbo to 3.9GHz. The 3770K is clocked at 3.5GHz and can turbo to the same 3.9GHz. The 1230v2 is "only" clocked at 3.3GHz and can "only" turbo to 3.7GHz. Plus no overclocking. Period. Its a Xeon.

http://ark.intel.com/products/65523/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
http://ark.intel.com/products/65719/Intel-Core-i7-3770-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
http://ark.intel.com/products/65732/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1230-v2-8M-Cache-3_30-GHz

You'd be better of with a standard issue 3570K for gaming. You're giving up 2MB of L3 cache and hyperthreading, but gain a 100MHz. If you run a discrete card, the IGP is disabled and you end up with the same TDP of 69W... :whiste:

http://ark.intel.com/products/65520/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz

 

[dac7nco]

The 1230v2 can be overclocked to 4.1GHz using any Z77 board.

Daimon

 

[crashtech]

The 1230v2 can be overclocked to 4.1GHz using any Z77 board.

Daimon

Could you elaborate please?

 

[dac7nco]

Intel chips with turbo can be overclocked by four "bins" over their maximum turbo frequency (using an OC-capable chipset). A $200 quad that turbos to 3.6 can be OCd to 4.0 using Z77, irrespective of whether it's an unlocked "K" model or not. All chips with turbo are "partially unlocked". The stock Intel cooler is usually adequate.

Daimon

 

[dragantoe]

Intel chips with turbo can be overclocked by four "bins" over their maximum turbo frequency (using an OC-capable chipset). A $200 quad that turbos to 3.6 can be OCd to 4.0 using Z77, irrespective of whether it's an unlocked "K" model or not. All chips with turbo are "partially unlocked". The stock Intel cooler is usually adequate.

Daimon

are you serious? an e3 1230 at 4.0 ghz would be awesome, but can you show a link where it is shown you can overclock a xeon on a z77 board?

 

[crashtech]

I'm not much of an overclocker, last time I was into overclocking it was still BSEL mods by taping pads on the CPU, which is now obviously history. I might have to try this new turbo overclocking out.

 

[dac7nco]

can you show a link where it is shown you can overclock a xeon on a z77 board?

Do a search; this is pretty well known and has been since P67 and Z68 awhile back. Non-K Sandy/Ivy chips with turbo functionality have always allowed you to OC by a few bins. You can't on anything below an i5, as those chips have no turbo. I've mildly OCd a 3470 and a 1245(v1), but on desktop boards. You will NOT OC on a server board with ECC memory.

 

[dragantoe]

Do a search; this is pretty well known and has been since P67 and Z68 awhile back. Non-K Sandy/Ivy chips with turbo functionality have always allowed you to OC by a few bins. You can't on anything below an i5, as those chips have no turbo. I've mildly OCd a 3470 and a 1245(v1), but on desktop boards. You will NOT OC on a server board with ECC memory.

I'm not using a server board, so maybe I should go with the xeon

 

[dac7nco]

I'm not using a server board, so maybe I should go with the xeon

I'd recommend a 3570K, even in that CM120 case. It'll overclock far better than the Xeon, even with a miniscule HSF. The turbo overclocking thing applies to standard single/dual/quad turbo ratios; a K-chip, fully unlocked will still be better in a small case. Buy the Xeon if you need the extra threads, but single-core performance will be matched, and cheaper, with the K-chip and a decent small HSF (you'll get 4.2 to 4.3GHz on ALL cores, not 4.1GHz on one core).

Daimon

 

[crashtech]

The 1230v2 is "only" clocked at 3.3GHz and can "only" turbo to 3.7GHz. Plus no overclocking. Period. Its a Xeon.

Guess you might want to rethink giving this opinion again?

 

[dac7nco]

Guess you might want to rethink giving this opinion again?

He/She's partially correct. There is ZERO overclocking SB/Ivy E-3 Xeons on chipsets they were designed for, and SB-E is completely locked down on anything. Overclocking E-3 Xeons (and Non-K i5/i7s) requires an enthusiast chipset, which implies desktop memory, which means you've negated the biggest plus of using a Xeon. I used an E-3 (Sandy Bridge) Xeon as my workstation for awhile, using A C206 Asus workstation board (which was a horrible piece of garbage). After I junked the system, I overclocked the E-3 by a few bins on a Z68 board to play with it... the performance difference was noticeable in benchmarks only, it would've been destroyed by a 2600K, and Z68 won't do ECC memory.

Daimon

 

[dac7nco]

Here is a reference for overclocking "limited unlocked" chips (turbo boost) by none other than Anand Lal Shimpi, two years ago. What applied to Sandy applies to Ivy.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/...-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/3

Daimon

 

[crashtech]

Right now, Intel's pricing structure make the E3-1230V2 in particular a very attractive alternative to an i7 while still retaining Hyperthreading. That is probably the biggest potential plus for most that visit this forum, not ECC. The fact that it can go 4GHz or so puts it pretty close to the 3770K while saving close to $100.

 

[dac7nco]

Right now, Intel's pricing structure make the E3-1230V2 in particular a very attractive alternative to an i7 while still retaining Hyperthreading. That is probably the biggest potential plus for most that visit this forum, not ECC. The fact that it can go 4GHz or so puts it pretty close to the 3770K while saving close to $100.

Truth

 

[dragantoe]

Right now, Intel's pricing structure make the E3-1230V2 in particular a very attractive alternative to an i7 while still retaining Hyperthreading. That is probably the biggest potential plus for most that visit this forum, not ECC. The fact that it can go 4GHz or so puts it pretty close to the 3770K while saving close to $100.

the only reason I want it is because it's basically a 3770 with no igp

 

[dragantoe]

with the K-chip and a decent small HSF (you'll get 4.2 to 4.3GHz on ALL cores, not 4.1GHz on one core).

Daimon

yes, but in the cm 120 elite there is no room for a decent hsf.

 

[dac7nco]

yes, but in the cm 120 elite there is no room for a decent hsf.

Prolimatech has a nice flat sink, which comes fanless, which is about 50mm tall with a 120mm fan atop it. It fits in an Antec ISK... it'll fit a CM120. Decent is a point of view... you're talking about a very minor overclock where added heat will pose few problems - you could probably manage it stock.