Xenogears FINALLY available on American PSN

Sulaco

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Still have my PSX copy in like-new condition.

Played it once, finished it, enjoyed it thoroughly. But I will likely never touch it again.
 

Narmer

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Still have my PSX copy in like-new condition.

Played it once, finished it, enjoyed it thoroughly. But I will likely never touch it again.
Should've sold it and made some cash. Too late now, most likely.
 

kamikazekyle

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Heh, I remember scrounging ebay for Xenogears years after release and seeing prices over $100 for a well used copy. Then I found the Greatest Hits version straight from the distributor for $19.99 new shrinkwrapped with free shipping. I still need to finish that game :p

That reminds me; I need to sell my Tales of Vesperia collectors edition before the price starts to drop.
 

Sulaco

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Should've sold it and made some cash. Too late now, most likely.

Why would I do that? I keep and collect all my games. The only games I sell are those I didn't really care for that might turn a profit.

Anything good or classic has more sentimental value than the few bucks I can make on eBay.

EDIT: Just did a quick check, prices are still the same as when I bought it 3 years ago
 
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Narmer

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Why would I do that? I keep and collect all my games. The only games I sell are those I didn't really care for that might turn a profit.

Anything good or classic has more sentimental value than the few bucks I can make on eBay.

EDIT: Just did a quick check, prices are still the same as when I bought it 3 years ago
Why keep something you have absolutely no intention of using again?
 

zinfamous

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whoa? that crappy game became a collector's item? wtf...wish i had known. I think I tossed mine in the dust bin.

I enjoyed it for a while, then the final 2 discs or so became some ridiculous sprite characters running around a black screen summarizing a whole bunch of nonsense as I tapped A to scroll through the ridiculous "plot."

half the game was a freaking screen of text. fuck that.
 

DaveSimmons

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That was one advantage of XenoSaga over XenoGears -- you had video and sound when characters shouted lines like this:

"I am the infinite telomerase! I am not an anti-existence! I am the perfect chain!"

:)
 

Narmer

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That's what collecting generally means.
He said he has no intention of using it. I doubt he's keeping it in mint condition. Anyway, I remember when people used to collect DVDs until sanity returned.
 
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That was one advantage of XenoSaga over XenoGears -- you had video and sound when characters shouted lines like this:

"I am the infinite telomerase! I am not an anti-existence! I am the perfect chain!"

:)

But then you had the disadvantage of having to listen to some terrible dialouge/voice acting.

I loved Xenosaga, but sometimes it made me cringe.
 

Sonikku

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I remember the pixels of the sprites looking REALLY rough even back in the playstation days. I remember Weltall 2 kicking far more ass with system: ID then Xenogears ever did. I remember this really REALLY ugly as sin kid in the game mad at me for the death of his mom or something. I remember grouping with Blanka from Street Fighter in that game!
I remember the ending offering a plot twist in the form of everyone not possessing any kind of genitals at all. How the hell do they use the bathroom?
 

Delita

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This is probably one of my favorite RPGs of all time. Looking forward to picking it up.

I hope they release Parasite Eve and Vagrant Story sometime soon as well.
 

zinfamous

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"The infinite telomerase?"

you've got to be joking, right??

did the guy who writes those crap Metal Gear Solid plots write that, too? :D
 

Sulaco

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He said he has no intention of using it. I doubt he's keeping it in mint condition. Anyway, I remember when people used to collect DVDs until sanity returned.

...and you know this...how? I said its in "like new" condition. How exactly is it going to degrade sitting on the shelf?

And yeah, that's what collecting is. If I greatly enjoyed a game, it likely has more sentimental value in my collection than the pennies I can sell it away for. Plus, you never know when the urge to play will hit. That happens all the time.

Xenogears was a huge game. It took me from early summer to the middle of winter to finish. Of course that's not playing absolutely every day and with real life getting in the way, but it was a journey. It was fun. It was part of my life for like 8 solid months.
Yeah, it's worth more than $40 to sell.
 

magomago

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whoa? that crappy game became a collector's item? wtf...wish i had known. I think I tossed mine in the dust bin.

I enjoyed it for a while, then the final 2 discs or so became some ridiculous sprite characters running around a black screen summarizing a whole bunch of nonsense as I tapped A to scroll through the ridiculous "plot."

half the game was a freaking screen of text. fuck that.

i had console orgasm every time i got to a cutscene with text :thumbsup:

The game felt like fighting through awesome 3 hour dungeons to barely make it out alive (I Was never one of those power levelers...always barely skidding through the bosses b/c I'm underleveld) and be treated to 15 minutes of cut scenes and text.

What attracted me to RPGs was the interactive story; it was like a book at certain parts... Nowadays that seems to be more and more rare with the glitzy presentation....its not bad and i'm not going to be one of those people that thinks the present sucks entirely, but times have changed and I definitely miss those type of rpgs. Of course, pictures are worth a thousand words...and the beautiful cut scenes of today can in no way easily be expressed by text.
 

magomago

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But then you had the disadvantage of having to listen to some terrible dialouge/voice acting.

I loved Xenosaga, but sometimes it made me cringe.

LOL yueahy


I prefer no voice acting because it takes away a layer of creativity by removing your own projection of what they would sound like. i don't mind the voice acting...I just wish I could turn it off...but then I guess I'd just be reading occasional lines of text ;)
 

destrekor

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That was one advantage of XenoSaga over XenoGears -- you had video and sound when characters shouted lines like this:

"I am the infinite telomerase! I am not an anti-existence! I am the perfect chain!"

:)

yep. XenoSaga just had insanely long videos, ones that could not be paused.

People complained about the videos for Metal Gear Solid 4, but that's just the new game... XenoSaga had much more video to be watched.

I still enjoyed XenoSaga, quite a lot. The story was fun to watch unfold, and the gameplay was nifty.
I should try and find XenoSaga Episodes 2 and 3 for cheap so see where the story went.
 

DaveSimmons

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FYI, Netflix has the anime for XenoSaga 1 on streaming, so you could watch that before moving on to games 2 & 3. I liked 2 but haven't played 3 yet.
 

zinfamous

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LOL yueahy


I prefer no voice acting because it takes away a layer of creativity by removing your own projection of what they would sound like. i don't mind the voice acting...I just wish I could turn it off...but then I guess I'd just be reading occasional lines of text ;)

I don't mind text at all. I generally dislike voice acting and silly cut scenes.

the problem with Xenogears was wall of text, and much of it superfluous garbage. pages and pages of text mean nothing if all of it is meaningless. To me, Xenogears was a multi-layered mess of concepts that never went anywhere.
 

exdeath

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Greatest game ever. Plot is greater than even most people here can imagine; most just think mechs and blah blah and never had the full impact of the story smack them in the face. It's better than Starwars, up there with the best of Shakespeare. Anyone familiar with Perfect Works?


"it was the hull of a colossal spacecraft..." biggest chills ever in a video game as the events of the game from the intro to your current task flash before your eyes as you put two and two together and realize the scope of this game...

The start of the day that 'god' and human kind fell to earth....

Broken mirror, a million shades of light.... I sat motionless for the credits and just dropped the controller, not because the ending was all that great, but in contemplation of the entire game itself... both explicitly told in game and untold but implied in game.

Nothing has come close, only game that moved me since Final Fantasy 4 (2 US), and nothing else since has come close. And I fear nothing ever will, because now its all about franchising out Call of Duty and Madden and Rock Band and flipping a quick buck off shallow sequels and download content. Nobody is going to make a good game anymore that can't be made in 6 months and take massive profits and be dumped in a week.

As for Square? They were done after Final Fantasy 6, Chrono Trigger, and Xenogears. They've put out shit since, about the time the main FF designer left after 6 and when my beloved Squaresoft became Square and Square Enix and turned to shit.
 
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