XBOX ONE X - Latest on whether MS will add Dolby Vision support?

corinthos

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This is the main thing holding me back from getting the XBox One X. Is there any new news on whether MS will add support?

If not, I'm just going to do PC gaming and get a separate Ultra-BD player that supports Dolby Vision.. waiting for the new line of Sony's.
 

imported_bman

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I doubt it, though I expect to see HDR10+ supported in 2018. I do wonder if it is possible to cast Dolby Vision to HDR10+ without having to pay for the licensing fees.
 

cmdrdredd

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So far, nothing. I wouldn't hold out on buying something just for that either. You could be waiting forever.
 

zerocool84

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Yup don't count on it. HDR-10 is an open standard. Yes Dolby Vision is better quality but then you also have licensing fees associated with it. Especially since more TV's support HDR-10 for that reason as well no reason to expect them to add it.
 

cmdrdredd

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Also HDR10+ is only supported by Samsung TVs as far as I know and the only source for content is Amazon Video. I would not expect any focus on that either unless that changes.
 

Aikouka

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I don't suspect that the Xbox One X will get Dolby Vision, and that just comes from the fact that the Xbox One S could've supported it too, and Microsoft has never even announced support for that console variant. Microsoft could even charge a fee to support the development and licensing costs like what they do with the Dolby Atmos for Headphones software for Xbox and Windows 10 (I think it's $15?).

Also, the Xbox One isn't a very good 4K player anyway. It's too noisy. I mentioned it in another thread, but just go to the store and lift up some of the UHD players. You'll probably be surprised at how much they weigh when you consider that they're just a disc drive, a control board and an I/O board. The latter two boards aren't even that big, and said boxes actually have a ton of dead space. For example, here's the internals of the Oppo BDP-203. It doesn't look that fancy compared to the innards of the Xbox One, which includes heftier heatsinks and such, and even with all that, the Oppo UHD player weighs around 10 pounds. These UHD players are built to contain disc vibration noises, which the Xbox One just doesn't do. I originally upgraded to the Xbox One S just as a UHD player, but I kept hearing the disc while watching Sicario, which was unacceptable to me. (The disc also would freeze randomly at spots, but it didn't on a dedicated UHD player.)

Yup don't count on it. HDR-10 is an open standard. Yes Dolby Vision is better quality but then you also have licensing fees associated with it. Especially since more TV's support HDR-10 for that reason as well no reason to expect them to add it.

Last I read, the licensing fees really aren't that much on a per-item basis. However, when you're selling millions of units, even paying one dollar per unit equates to millions of dollars spent in just licensing. Keep in mind that these companies have to implement their own software to handle it as most don't have hardware solutions. So, they've also got to spend time developing and debugging the software implementation. Also, if most people don't use it, it may not be worthwhile at that point.

Sony sold their X1 Extreme-based UHD TVs that they would be getting Dolby Vision, but at this point, they still haven't released it via a firmware update. They recently showed Forbes a demo of it working, and the reviewer had great things to say; however, they also stated that they'd have more information on a release date in December. (Some people are assuming a March '18 release date.) I own a 930e, and I can't even use Dolby Vision until they release that update. :oops:
 

razel

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MS will support if Sony supports. If anything it will be a paid app option. You already notice prior to X that on the 'S' when Dolby Atmos was in beta, a separate Dolby app needed to be installed to 'enable' Atmos. Now it is built in. It call depends on what wins the Home Theater market or their competitor does.
 

corinthos

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I guess I will wait for the next Sony player that is the follow-up to the popular one recently that has been selling for like $120-150. I'll bite when it comes out and drops to that price range. Heard it's an excellent ultra blu-ray player and also great for audio and other things.. good build quality too.. only thing lacking is no DV.
 

Aikouka

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I guess I will wait for the next Sony player that is the follow-up to the popular one recently that has been selling for like $120-150. I'll bite when it comes out and drops to that price range. Heard it's an excellent ultra blu-ray player and also great for audio and other things.. good build quality too.. only thing lacking is no DV.

I assume you're talking about the UBP-X800. I have one, and it's a fine player, but it does have some software/firmware problems... and some kind of nasty ones at that. For example, I was scrolling through the menus, and when looking at video options, all of a sudden, I just got static/white noise all over the screen. I can't remember if that required me to just power cycle the unit or if I had to pull the plug. I know I had to pull the plug once to fix a problem, but I can't remember what that was. The player itself also lacks a few streaming video services if you care about that.
 

corinthos

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I assume you're talking about the UBP-X800. I have one, and it's a fine player, but it does have some software/firmware problems... and some kind of nasty ones at that. For example, I was scrolling through the menus, and when looking at video options, all of a sudden, I just got static/white noise all over the screen. I can't remember if that required me to just power cycle the unit or if I had to pull the plug. I know I had to pull the plug once to fix a problem, but I can't remember what that was. The player itself also lacks a few streaming video services if you care about that.

But is it the closest to "perfect" out of today's available players? I thought about the XBox One X route but don't think it will offer DV and the output quality may not be as good as a dedicated player like the Sony, right?
 

cmdrdredd

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But is it the closest to "perfect" out of today's available players? I thought about the XBox One X route but don't think it will offer DV and the output quality may not be as good as a dedicated player like the Sony, right?

Oppo BDP-203 is the one you want then.
 

Aikouka

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But is it the closest to "perfect" out of today's available players? I thought about the XBox One X route but don't think it will offer DV and the output quality may not be as good as a dedicated player like the Sony, right?

Well, I saw those problems when I first started using it, and I haven't seen any since. So, it might be fine now.

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Oppo BDP-203 is the one you want then.

I think it's probably a bit too pricey for most. Even with a refurbished unit, which has the same warranty, it's over $400.
 

cmdrdredd

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Well, I saw those problems when I first started using it, and I haven't seen any since. So, it might be fine now.

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I think it's probably a bit too pricey for most. Even with a refurbished unit, which has the same warranty, it's over $400.

It is really the only fully featured player though which is as close to perfect as you have now. It has Dolby vision support, allows color bit depth selection, does proper sdr conversion.