Discussion Xbox next speculation

[marees]

M$ is dumb. Instead of making a more expensive console, they should make a cheaper one and then optimize the hell out of software because they are a SOFTWARE company. How stupid can they be?

See the whole point of PC has been "bragging rights"

MS software is a complement on top of that

& if you look at it, valve's emulation was faster than windows native, lol

 

[igor_kavinski]

LOL, you can only optimize software so much.

They already have DirectX and thus the requisite low level knowledge of the hardware. The next step would be designing an engine that's better than Unreal. It benefits their partners and it automatically makes development on their platform an experience that developers look forward to. They could have different branches of their engine, like a branch for RPGs, a branch for sports titles, a branch for FPS games, a branch for racing games etc. They have so many studios with competent technical people. If anyone can do it, it's them.

 

[marees]

Magnus is not cancelled

Don't believe in rumours by Salty MS-haters

https://twitter.com/x/status/1975577103161512073

 

[marees]

Magnus is not cancelled

Don't believe in rumours by Salty MS-haters

https://twitter.com/x/status/1975577103161512073

Full steam ahead !!!

AMD Engineer Allegedly Claims Next-Gen Xbox Hardware Plans Are “Full Steam Ahead"

Going against prior rumors, an AMD engineer has allegedly claimed that plans for next-gen Xbox hardware are "full steam ahead."

twistedvoxel.com

 

[marees]

Microsoft shows off room where next gen consoles are being prototyped

https://twitter.com/x/status/1978470839403385205

 

[marees]

From the horse's mouth:

Microsoft is working on next gen Xbox console(s)

The announcement of the ROG Xbox Allys and Xbox’s partnership with Asus also sparked some confusion over whether Xbox was out of the in-house-made console game. Bond confirms the Xbox team is still hard at work on its next-gen consoles, the follow-ups to the Xbox Series S and X, and there’s even the possibility of internally made handhelds.​

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“We are 100% looking at making things in the future,” Bond said. “We have our next-gen hardware in development. We’ve been looking at prototyping, designing. We have a partnership we’ve announced with AMD around it, so that is coming. What we saw here was an opportunity to innovate in a new way and to bring gamers another choice, in addition to our next-gen hardware. We are always listening to what players and creators want. When there is demand for innovation, we’re going to build it.”​

Ally Arrives: Xbox President Sarah Bond Explains New Handhelds Steep Price, Prioritizing ‘Windows Experience’ and Next-Gen Console Plans Heading Into 2026

Xbox president Sarah Bond discusses the release of Xbox's Ally handheld device, including the price set by Asus, and progress on next-gen consoles.

variety.com

Via https://thegamepost.com/microsoft-next-gen-xbox-console-development/

 

[marees]

Our next gen console is going to be a A very premium, very high end, curated experience.
~Sarah Bond, Xbox Hardware Head Honcho

https://twitter.com/x/status/1980713531088490597

 

[marees]

Kepler estimates $1200

My guess — whatever the price of a 2027 NUC with a 5070 ti or 5070 ti super but slightly cheaper than that

PS6 Price May Be Close To Half Of Next-Gen Xbox

The price of Sony's next-gen console, the PS6, may be close to half of the price of the next-gen Xbox, based on a new rumor.

twistedvoxel.com

 

[marees]

Kepler estimates $1200

My guess — whatever the price of a 2027 NUC with a 5070 ti or 5070 ti super but slightly cheaper than that

PS6 Price May Be Close To Half Of Next-Gen Xbox

The price of Sony's next-gen console, the PS6, may be close to half of the price of the next-gen Xbox, based on a new rumor.

twistedvoxel.com

Vote for your prediction here

Discussion - What will be the price of the next xbox

Kepler says $1200 Adroc says $600 Assuming performance is around a 5070 ti super, & launching in H1 2027, what do you think the price will be

forums.anandtech.com

Kepler says $1200
Adroc says $600

Assuming performance is around a 5070 ti super, & launching in H1 2027, what do you think the price will be

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Our next gen console is going to be a A very premium, very high end, curated experience.
~Sarah Bond, Xbox Hardware Head Honcho

She is destroying Xbox and needs to be kicked to the curb ASAP.

 

[quikah]

She is destroying Xbox and needs to be kicked to the curb ASAP.

Nah, Satya and Amy Hood are killing Xbox with their 30% profit margin mandate:

Inside Xbox’s profit pressure — How a 30% margin target is reshaping everything from studios to strategy (and upsetting fans)

Microsoft CFO Amy Hood has forced Xbox to deliver an industry margin far beyond what is typical for gaming in general, which will devastate the business if not rectified soon.

www.windowscentral.com

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Thanks for the info. Boot Amy too.

 

[NTMBK]

They already have DirectX and thus the requisite low level knowledge of the hardware. The next step would be designing an engine that's better than Unreal. It benefits their partners and it automatically makes development on their platform an experience that developers look forward to. They could have different branches of their engine, like a branch for RPGs, a branch for sports titles, a branch for FPS games, a branch for racing games etc. They have so many studios with competent technical people. If anyone can do it, it's them.

Amazon, another software tech giant, tried to make an engine better than Unreal. It was called Lumberyard, it sucked, and they offloaded it into the Linux Foundation to get out of maintaining it.

Building a world class game engine is hard.

 

[quikah]

Amazon, another software tech giant, tried to make an engine better than Unreal. It was called Lumberyard, it sucked, and they offloaded it into the Linux Foundation to get out of maintaining it.

Building a world class game engine is hard.

Not to mention they already own multiple engines, Forzatech, Blam (halo's engine which they have abandoned for Unreal 5), Idtech engine...

 

[marees]

2027?

So not in time for a 25th anniversary reveal next November 🤔🤔

next-gen isn't hindered by a hard deadline here. The landing strip I've seen for next-gen Xbox hardware has always pointed to 2027.

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/microsofts-ambitious-new-xbox-your-entire-console-library-the-full-power-of-windows-pc-gaming-and-more

 

[purbeast0]

Unfortunately whatever the next Xbox console will be is the first console in my life (turn 44 in November) that I literally have zero interest in. I am wishing I didn't cave to FOMO with the XSX at launch. I literally have not bought 1 game for XSX since it came out. The only 3 games I bought "for" it were X1 games that I got before it came out - Gears 5, Halo 6, and Doom Eternal. Gears 5 was great aside from the open world crap, I didn't really like Doom, and Halo 6 is still sealed.

Now that Gears is going to be on Playstation console I can just get it for that, if/when the new one ever comes out.

I do use my XSX though for watching stuff. I use it for Amazon Prime and XBMC. So I guess there is that.

 

[Golgatha]

Unfortunately whatever the next Xbox console will be is the first console in my life (turn 44 in November) that I literally have zero interest in. I am wishing I didn't cave to FOMO with the XSX at launch. I literally have not bought 1 game for XSX since it came out. The only 3 games I bought "for" it were X1 games that I got before it came out - Gears 5, Halo 6, and Doom Eternal. Gears 5 was great aside from the open world crap, I didn't really like Doom, and Halo 6 is still sealed.

Now that Gears is going to be on Playstation console I can just get it for that, if/when the new one ever comes out.

I do use my XSX though for watching stuff. I use it for Amazon Prime and XBMC. So I guess there is that.

I loaded up 2+ years of XBL to get my account with 3 years loaded on it, and converted all that time to GPU for $1 back when they were running that promotion. That time runs out in March 2026. While it was nice to play a few games here and there, I used it enough to justify what I paid for it (less than $10 per month), but at $30 per month they've lost me as a source of revenue. However, I don't regret my XSX purchase, as I had a large catalog of purchased games from XB, XB360, and XB1, which all load and play much better on XSX. I am a big fan of Forza and Gears, but since those aren't exclusives anymore, I'll get them on PC going forward. Speaking of PC, I do like the play anywhere feature for purchased games, so I'll likely keep getting Forza and Gears games on XBox as long as they keep that feature, but I'm not willing to pay twice for PC and XBox copies of a game. Finally, I hope the rumors are true and they don't paywall cloud backups for game save files or Online multiplayer. If they do either of those things, I'm completely out of the XBox ecosystem.

For similar reasons, I'm likely out of the Playstation ecosystem. I'm not willing to keep a PSN subscription just for cloud game save file backups, and I'm unwilling to pay for Online multiplayer too. There are some games I like to play from the couch Online, mainly racing games, but I'll invest in fiber HDMI from my PC before I'll pay for Online multiplayer now that the exclusives aren't exclusive to each platform (for the most part) anymore.

Edit: At the end of the day, PC storefronts and Nintendo have gotten and will continue to get most of my gaming dollars. The XSX and PS5 are great from a quality of life standpoint for my catalog of games that I've amassed over the years, but I've probably bought about 5-10 games on each platform, and pretty much only buy at a deep discount at that.

 

[balloonshark]

Xbox 12 Month Game Pass Core - US Registered Account Only (Email Delivery)
$14 off w/ promo code SSE2787, limited offer $74.99 - $14 = $60.99

https://www.newegg.com/microsoft/p/N82E16888351003

If I have not had a sub on my account for a while will this convert to 12 months of game pass essential?

 

[marees]

Xbox magnus chip supposed to tape out this quarter

Microsoft: We are actively investing in our future first-party consoles and devices designed, engineered and built by Xbox.

MS bread and butter is enterprise software; there is zero threat from Steam OS there. The danger would be PC gamers switching from Windows to Linux. The irony is that those SteamOS gamers would still be playing games written for a Windows OS and that MS would still make money selling games to...

www.neogaf.com

Via https://twistedvoxel.com/microsoft-canceled-xbox-handheld-amd-required-min-sales-of-10m-units/

 

[ToTTenTranz]

She is destroying Xbox and needs to be kicked to the curb ASAP.

You're assuming her, or even Phil, have any meaningful say in Xbox's future.


The Xbox division spent the last 5 years burning money at an unprecedented rate while continuously losing ground to Sony. And it happened due to Phil & friends' sheer incompetence at running the studios they kept buying.

The result of this was Microsoft's CEO and CTO running the division while Sarah Bond and Phil Spencer become little more than inconsequential talking heads.