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Xbox Live "Terms of Use"

Wag

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So I grabbed XBox Live! for the first time and I'm signing up-

Can you guys believe the balls MS has with their "Terms of Use" agreement? It's ridiculously long and complex- I wonder if it ever comes down to a lawsuit they can get away with it?
 

Wag

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I never said they didn't have the right to protect their property.

What I'm asking is if they can have this ridiculously long and complicated agreement and expect the average person to understand it, let alone read it. I'm pretty sure there have been court cases on the "Terms of Use" statements before.
 

filmmaker

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Originally posted by: Wag
I never said they didn't have the right to protect their property.

What I'm asking is if they can have this ridiculously long and complicated agreement and expect the average person to understand it, let alone read it. I'm pretty sure there have been court cases on the "Terms of Use" statements before.
You are expected to read the terms before playing, but I don't see too many people reading them nor breaking any of the terms while playing.
 

DaveSimmons

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Our horribly complex legal code is the end result of millennia of weasels (and their lawyers) arguing that what they did was not technically illegal. EULAs and terms of use are the same, though based on a shorter period.

As long as military-school students argue they shouldn't be expelled because they were not specifically ordered not to cheat, and bad parents sue id because Doom made their kids kill, and people here ask if their business can share different parts of one copy of Office among employees, EULAs will be a fact of life.

Now, if there is some specific part of the Terms of Use you disagree with, like the clause where you agree that they can use your bandwidth to send out unsolicited bulk e-mail, then post it.