Xbox Live Primetime not ready for Primetime

Queasy

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Other features cut? I know of the video sharing but if they cut much more than we are basically going to be left with a UI change to begin with.

Microsoft has told Eurogamer that Primetime will not be a part of the New Xbox Experience on 19th November. Other features may also be absent, although there's no word on which ones they might be.

"The New Xbox Experience is a long-term initiative, and what we are rolling out on November 19th is only the beginning," a spokesperson told us.

"With the New Xbox Experience we will have the flexibility to roll out features and updates dynamically, unlike in the past where we were on a more biannual schedule. So, there are a lot more exciting features, including Primetime, that will be coming soon."

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Disappointing

There's a new member of the "Not Ready for Primetime Players": The Xbox 360.

Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ) has delayed the launch of "Xbox Live Primetime," its programmed series of interactive games with real-world prizes, until the spring. Microsoft managers say the delay is necessary in order to ensure a smooth launch of the system's new user interface (or, if you prefer the terminology of Microsoft's PR department, the "new Xbox experience").

That's too bad. Xbox Live Primetime is a provocative concept and could represent the gaming industry's first serious foray into the turf dominated by TV. By waiting until the spring, Microsoft's offering will likely go up against a more compelling lineup of television shows--and put its chances of instant success at risk.

The Xbox's new dashboard is scheduled to launch Nov. 19 and will mark Microsoft's biggest grab yet for a mainstream audience. In addition to making new content easier to find, the upgrade will allow Xbox 360 owners to customize avatars that can be shared among friends as well as stream movies from Netflix (nasdaq: NFLX - news - people ) through their system.

But this relaunch was supposed to be even bigger.

When it was announced in July at E3, "Xbox Live Primetime" was described as a major component of the Xbox relaunch. Virtual game shows, which would only be playable at regularly scheduled times, would let members of the Xbox Live community members compete against one another for physical prizes rather than virtual ones (like digital trophies or gamer points).

The first show that was slated to debut on the service was an online version of "1 vs. 100."

The Microsoft approach certainly sounded bold: TV networks are already flailing, losing viewers to online games, the Internet or even just cable television. "We believe this is the natural extension of games on the 360," Shane Kim, vice president of strategy and business development for Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment business, told me immediately following the unveiling of the new dashboard.

The engineering challenges proved formidable--perhaps even more than the company anticipated. Because the relaunch of Xbox Live is the biggest gaming project the company has undertaken since getting the 360 onto store shelves, things have slipped. Rather than postponing the launch until next year, when all touted features will be ready, the company has opted to cut. (Microsoft said recently that it would delay launching the feature that would allow members in different locations to simultaneously watch a streaming Netflix movie together.)

Aaron Greenberg, group marketing manager for Microsoft, said the company is still very dedicated to the concept of Primetime and continues to work on it. And, to be honest, the Redmond, Wash., team could find a way to make the delay a good move ultimately. If nothing else, the company will have more time to polish "Primetime" and possibly launch with games beyond "1 vs. 100."

Yet the weakness of the fall television season had left the TV networks particularly vulnerable. Many returning "new" shows, such as ABC's Pushing Daisies and NBC's Life--which had good momentum last year before the writer's strike--have seen viewership fall off considerably this season. Bored viewers might have been especially tempted to give Microsoft's offering a try.

NBC had adequate--though not breakout--results for "1 vs. 100" when it was airing regularly. The promise of known properties (where rules don't have to be explained at length) and prizes that have real value might have helped "Primetime" win over an audience that had had enough of Gary Unmarried and Knight Rider.

When the new year dawns, however, television's big guns, including 24, Lost" and the American Idol juggernaut, will return. That potentially puts "Primetime" up against a sweeps period, when networks work even harder to woo audiences (and viewership spikes).

And if Microsoft thought it was hard to break people of their day-to-day couch surfing habits, just wait until it goes toe-to-toe with Simon Cowell.
 
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Well that sucks. Primetime was probably my most anticipated feature of the new dash update. Now I'm not really all that jazzed about November 19th. I'm still looking forward to it because I hate the current dash, but it's lost some of it's luster now to me.
 

AstroManLuca

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Whew. I read the thread title and thought you meant the new dashboard would be delayed until spring. Guess not.

It's not so much that I'm looking forward to it as I'm looking forward to things like Netflix streaming and (maybe) a web browser.
 

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Whew. I read the thread title and thought you meant the new dashboard would be delayed until spring. Guess not.

It's not so much that I'm looking forward to it as I'm looking forward to things like Netflix streaming and (maybe) a web browser.

Ditto, cant wait for prime time though.
 

AstroManLuca

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I should read a bit more about it. Never heard of it until now... guess I don't keep very close track of stuff since you guys seem to be excited about it.
 

Oyeve

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They just want us to buy larger HDs because they know new STIM money is coming from Govt. and thats around the time we will get our $$$$.
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Whew. I read the thread title and thought you meant the new dashboard would be delayed until spring. Guess not.

It's not so much that I'm looking forward to it as I'm looking forward to things like Netflix streaming and (maybe) a web browser.

Ditto, cant wait for prime time though.

Same here -- you're scaring us and Halloween's still 10 days away!
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Whew. I read the thread title and thought you meant the new dashboard would be delayed until spring. Guess not.

It's not so much that I'm looking forward to it as I'm looking forward to things like Netflix streaming and (maybe) a web browser.

Ditto, cant wait for prime time though.

Same here -- you're scaring us and Halloween's still 10 days away!

:confused: The new Dashboard is commonly referred to as "The New Xbox Experience". Live Primetime is but one of the many new features promised in it.

Anyways, this is actually the second feature of "The New Xbox Experience" that has been delayed. The Netflix video sharing/party has also been either cut or delayed.

Note: This is not the Netflix video streaming but the bit where friends could watch the same movie at the same time on different 360s.
 

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Originally posted by: Queasy
The Netflix video sharing/party has also been either cut or delayed.

Note: This is not the Netflix video streaming but the bit where friends could watch the same movie at the same time on different 360s.

Meh. At first I thought this was a cool feature, until I realized you and your friends all have to have a Gold account and a Netflix subscription. I don't really see what would be so fun about watching a movie with someone while essentially being connected with them 'over the phone' (Xbox Live).
 

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Originally posted by: blurredvision
Well that sucks. Primetime was probably my most anticipated feature of the new dash update. Now I'm not really all that jazzed about November 19th. I'm still looking forward to it because I hate the current dash, but it's lost some of it's luster now to me.

I'm still looking forward to Netflix streaming and HOPEFULLY a substantially FASTER dash (and sidebar during games). Also a non-retarded way of accessing demos and XBLA games (which they actually used to have before they replaced it with the current crap).

But this Primetime thing sounded pretty cool.
 

Queasy

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Other features cut? I know of the video sharing but if they cut much more than we are basically going to be left with a UI change to begin with.

Microsoft has told Eurogamer that Primetime will not be a part of the New Xbox Experience on 19th November. Other features may also be absent, although there's no word on which ones they might be.

"The New Xbox Experience is a long-term initiative, and what we are rolling out on November 19th is only the beginning," a spokesperson told us.

"With the New Xbox Experience we will have the flexibility to roll out features and updates dynamically, unlike in the past where we were on a more biannual schedule. So, there are a lot more exciting features, including Primetime, that will be coming soon."