Xbox Linux -> on a pc?
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No.
The reason for this is DRM (Digital Rights Management). Your computer doesn't have the correct hardware encryption chip. Therefore it won't run the game. In fact, the support for the general TCPA architecture is still being put together for inclusion in the 2.6.13 kernel.
Everyone should be keeping watch over TCPA and "Trusted" Computing (in quotes, because it is widely believed that Microsoft's implementation will not trust the user). Avoiding the disaster scenarios is worth everybody's time.
The reason for this is DRM (Digital Rights Management). Your computer doesn't have the correct hardware encryption chip. Therefore it won't run the game. In fact, the support for the general TCPA architecture is still being put together for inclusion in the 2.6.13 kernel.
Everyone should be keeping watch over TCPA and "Trusted" Computing (in quotes, because it is widely believed that Microsoft's implementation will not trust the user). Avoiding the disaster scenarios is worth everybody's time.
But that's not what he's asking, is it.
Actually, the funny thing is that very soon after he asked the question and I originally answered, teh /. ran this story. They're once again pushing back the timetable on a component, not that that's unusual from them by now.
That doesn't make NGSCB/the artist formerly known as Palladium any less dangerous. In fact, it is most dangerous when under the radar.
No, he just misunderstood what you were asking.
AnonymouseUser
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This is a funny thread.
The reason anyone runs Linux on an XBox is because it turns the XBox into a cheap Linux-based server (Apache, FTP, Samba, etc). When running Linux on an XBox, it does not play XBox games (hell, it is hard enough sometimes running a Windows-only PC game under Linux on a regular PC). Running XBox-Linux on a PC to do what Linux already does on a PC is ludicrous.
The reason anyone runs Linux on an XBox is because it turns the XBox into a cheap Linux-based server (Apache, FTP, Samba, etc). When running Linux on an XBox, it does not play XBox games (hell, it is hard enough sometimes running a Windows-only PC game under Linux on a regular PC). Running XBox-Linux on a PC to do what Linux already does on a PC is ludicrous.
AnonymouseUser
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I do remember bleem, but the goal of Linux on the XBox is not to be an XBox emulator. It is (essentially) a PC emulator for the XBox.
No, you still don't get it.
Okay, lets say we have a Dreamcast and want to play snes games using DreamSNES.
So what we do is write a Dreamcast emulator for the PC and then run DreamSNES on the PC.
So what we are doing is
PC-->Dreamcast-->SNES Emulator for the DC
but the problem is it is INFINTELY simpler and easier to just use a NATIVE PC emulator like znes
PC--->Snes Emulator for PC
Why have the middleman?
Bleem did just that~ PC---->PSX Emulator for PC
not PC-->PSX Layer of Emulation--->Load Win 3.11 --->emulate game via win 3.11
Obvoiusly the person wants to play xbox games on the PC, but then you don't need a Linux implentation for the Xbox at all....
Exactly, if people were not so stupid to buy into DRM-protected products, then there would be no DRM to crack and you could do anything you wanted with anything you bought. Instead now we end up handing money over to people that then use what they sold us to try to control us.
Screw Itunes, etc. Not a big deal if you dont' care, I suppose.
Screw Itunes, etc. Not a big deal if you dont' care, I suppose.
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i just assumed since the attack on the xbox was made and you could run linux on it, there would be a linux emulator to play the xbox games. also since there is a mod chip, the data is known to circumvent the drm, just like the old playstations, the mod chip just "injected" the code during the load cycle of the game. i was told that you could run linux on an xbox, load a iso of a xbox game and then run the game from within the linux enviornment, but maybe the person i was talking to was full of sh@t, don't know... as i do not own an xbox, but have spare computers laying around.
That person was full of sh1t, as you put it.
You can run games on xbox, you can run Linux on the xbox, but just not at the same time. And lately you have to sacrific the ability to do 'xbox live' to be able to run Linux at all if you do the hacks thru software.
Check out the frequently asked question section of the xbox-linux project.
http://www.xbox-linux.org/FAQ
If I could get my hands on a cheap xbox (like under a 100 dollars) then I'd probably hack it to run Linux on it all the time, then isntall Mythtv on it and use as a front-end for a database of recorded shows on a Mythtv backend in another room.
Then I'd take a cheap USB keyboard, cut the end off of the cord, cut the end off of the xbox controller and then slice the xbox end onto the keyboard's cord and put the regular USB connector on the xbox's cord. That way I could use the Xbox controller as a joystick on my Linux box and use the keyboard for my TV.
(The Xbox uses regular USB stuff, but stuck a propriatory connector on it so people wouldn't just use PC stuff on it and visa versa.)
You can run games on xbox, you can run Linux on the xbox, but just not at the same time. And lately you have to sacrific the ability to do 'xbox live' to be able to run Linux at all if you do the hacks thru software.
Check out the frequently asked question section of the xbox-linux project.
http://www.xbox-linux.org/FAQ
If I could get my hands on a cheap xbox (like under a 100 dollars) then I'd probably hack it to run Linux on it all the time, then isntall Mythtv on it and use as a front-end for a database of recorded shows on a Mythtv backend in another room.
Then I'd take a cheap USB keyboard, cut the end off of the cord, cut the end off of the xbox controller and then slice the xbox end onto the keyboard's cord and put the regular USB connector on the xbox's cord. That way I could use the Xbox controller as a joystick on my Linux box and use the keyboard for my TV.
(The Xbox uses regular USB stuff, but stuck a propriatory connector on it so people wouldn't just use PC stuff on it and visa versa.)
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