Xbox 360 slim to have integrated CPU GPU die? Fusion?

[happy medium]

Seems The new xbox slim will have the first cpu/gpu on the same die.
Did they beat intel and AMD to the punch?

http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/processors/processors/microsoft-spills-beans-on-new-xbox-chip

 

[Skurge]

DP

 

[Skurge]

No.

Its the same as Intel's core i5 and i3 processors. They just glued the CPU and the GPU together. It's nothing like what Intel and AMD are doing with SB and Llano.

 

[happy medium]

No.

Its the same as Intel's core i5 and i3 processors. They just glued the CPU and the GPU together. It's nothing like what Intel and AMD are doing with SB and Llano.

ok, gotcha. thanks

Kinda like the old Pentium D's? 2 cpu's just slapped together.

 

[Skurge]

ok, gotcha. thanks

Kinda like the old Pentium D's? 2 cpu's just slapped together.

Exactly.

 

[Termie]

Here's a better article on this topic: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/...ntel-amd-to-market-with-cpugpu-combo-chip.ars

And to clarify, this is the SoC that is ALREADY in the Xbox slim. It's just that Microsoft hadn't previously released information on how they did it.

And by the way, it still runs hot...

But boy does it sip power...69w at idle, ~80w at load!

 

[darkewaffle]

Didn't we know this months ago when Anand opened his Slim?

 

[Idontcare]

No.

Its the same as Intel's core i5 and i3 processors. They just glued the CPU and the GPU together. It's nothing like what Intel and AMD are doing with SB and Llano.

The OP is correct, it really is a monolithic CPU/GPU (i.e. yes they did beat Fusion). The MCM'ed part is the embedded dram.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/389/002/html/1.jpg.html

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/389/002/html/2.jpg.html

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/389/002/html/8.jpg.html

 

[BenSkywalker]

Seems The new xbox slim will have the first cpu/gpu on the same die.

I wouldn't say the first, actually I'm not sure it makes it into the first billion or not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_system-on-a-chip_suppliers

 

[happy medium]

I wouldn't say the first, actually I'm not sure it makes it into the first billion or not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_system-on-a-chip_suppliers

Hey, thats cheating :twisted:, but you are technically correct. :biggrin:

@ IDC
Thanks, for the new info.

 

[Scali]

Its the same as Intel's core i5 and i3 processors. They just glued the CPU and the GPU together. It's nothing like what Intel and AMD are doing with SB and Llano.

It is EXACTLY what Intel and AMD are doing with SB and Llano... Copy-paste a GPU core onto the die.

Thing is, with the XBox, there never was a dedicated video card anyway. They were always sharing video memory between CPU and GPU, so copy-pasting both onto a single die didn't make a difference (neither in the positive nor the negative sense).

If I'm not mistaken, the eDram part was always MCM'ed on the GPU package in the XBox.