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Xbox 360 "Slim" rumour

I'd love to see a smaller 360 that travels a bit better than the current beast. They just better make sure they test the cooling really well on it this time.
 
My 360 isn't that "mobile" so I could care less. That being said, I still always think the "slim" models are a cool idea. The slim PS2 was very portable (though I never owned one). My biggest concern would be what MrWiz pointed out... the size of the power brick. That beast is going to put a hamper on any sort of portability.... it's not exactly travel friendly!
 
I would really love a hardware refresh for the 360. I might even go pick one up even though my present one is in perfect working order (perhaps I could just donate it to a lesser fortunate ($) friend?). I'm not one to normally jump into console bashing or taking sides but I gotta say--in light of recent events (playing GTAIV), my 360 is just too loud. I mean REALLY loud. I know this isnt a revelation at any stretch, but it just finally struck a cord with me after playing that game because I had to turn up the TV to hear the dialog. It's was even more noticeable once I turned the thing off because the living room was just so quiet and the TV was so looud. 😛
 
Will the GPU/CPU or disk drive be externalized this time😉? If it means a complete re-engineering of the unit, I got no problem. If it means using the same crappy design and removing even more ventilation space, forget it.
 
Originally posted by: Wuzup101
I change my above opinion. After writing that I got an RRoD... :/ When do we see the slim version?
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Late 2009.

I would think the upcoming Jasper might solve most of the 360 RRoD problems. The GPU is the biggest source of heat/power drain and reducing it down to 65nm will reduce the load significantly on both for the 360.
 
I don't care too much about the size, but a quieter system would be great.... of course, most of the noise is from the optical drive 🙁 .
 
Slim would be nice, but I wish they would just make it runn cooler and be more "stackable" Too many systems, I wish I could stack some on top of each other without one overheating or puuting pressure on the drives.
 
Right now they are producing too much heat. Going to 65nm may fix that, but I doubt it will be enough to allow them to make a slim model. It will be the next size down after that which will let them make a slim model.
 
My main hope for Jasper is improved reliability (even Falcon is alleged to have ~10% failure rate).

Bonus features would be built-in wifi and MS spending a little extra for consistently quiet DVD drives. Reducing the power draw again might mean a smaller brick, but size is low on my list of features to improve.
 
I'd rather have a much cooler 360 than a slim one. I don't give a shit about size. Make it twice as big for all I care.

JUST GET THE DAMN FAILURE RATE DOWN. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR
 
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/18623

Xbox 540 Wishlist

The guy makes some good points. I'm with him. I don't care much about built-in WiFi, but I can see how most would. To me, though, if you need to keep cost down, that's the first logical place to start. Why make all users pay for something that only a portion need?

But in my opinion, the heat and noise reign above all else. The DVD drive is insanely loud.
 
This is where Microsoft needs to seriously look to Sony for guidance. While the early PS2 was plagued with some problems (although, to date, I've had one disc read error on my launch PS2, but haven't used for nearly 2 years now), the slim PS2 was excellent as far as I've heard. The PS3 is an extremely well-built beast, with a failure rate that is perfectly normal for any consumer electronics item, especially one as complicated in architecture as the PS3. Hell, even the PSP, while plagued with bad LCDs in the beginning, is a well-built device. Sony has really stepped up in terms of hardware, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they cook up as far as slim PS3.
Microsoft seems to apply the same effort to their Xbox line as they do Windows. Great customer service, but not exactly top-notch product at the outset. The fact they haven't fixed the 360 by this point in its life, doesn't give me much hope for the future. I doubt I'll ever own one, unless it gains some excellent exclusives that never see the light of day on the PC, then I might pick one up when they reach $120 or somewhere around that figure. And I'll keep my 60gb PS3 for as long as it continues to function, although one day I'll probably upgrade the hard drive. All these mandatory installs are starting to eat up space...

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Originally posted by: destrekor
This is where Microsoft needs to seriously look to Sony for guidance. While the early PS2 was plagued with some problems (although, to date, I've had one disc read error on my launch PS2, but haven't used for nearly 2 years now), the slim PS2 was excellent as far as I've heard. The PS3 is an extremely well-built beast, with a failure rate that is perfectly normal for any consumer electronics item, especially one as complicated in architecture as the PS3. Hell, even the PSP, while plagued with bad LCDs in the beginning, is a well-built device. Sony has really stepped up in terms of hardware, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they cook up as far as slim PS3.
Microsoft seems to apply the same effort to their Xbox line as they do Windows. Great customer service, but not exactly top-notch product at the outset. The fact they haven't fixed the 360 by this point in its life, doesn't give me much hope for the future. I doubt I'll ever own one, unless it gains some excellent exclusives that never see the light of day on the PC, then I might pick one up when they reach $120 or somewhere around that figure. And I'll keep my 60gb PS3 for as long as it continues to function, although one day I'll probably upgrade the hard drive. All these mandatory installs are starting to eat up space...

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I stopped after reading this sentence.
 
Originally posted by: foghorn67
Originally posted by: destrekor
This is where Microsoft needs to seriously look to Sony for guidance. While the early PS2 was plagued with some problems (although, to date, I've had one disc read error on my launch PS2, but haven't used for nearly 2 years now), the slim PS2 was excellent as far as I've heard. The PS3 is an extremely well-built beast, with a failure rate that is perfectly normal for any consumer electronics item, especially one as complicated in architecture as the PS3. Hell, even the PSP, while plagued with bad LCDs in the beginning, is a well-built device. Sony has really stepped up in terms of hardware, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they cook up as far as slim PS3.
Microsoft seems to apply the same effort to their Xbox line as they do Windows. Great customer service, but not exactly top-notch product at the outset. The fact they haven't fixed the 360 by this point in its life, doesn't give me much hope for the future. I doubt I'll ever own one, unless it gains some excellent exclusives that never see the light of day on the PC, then I might pick one up when they reach $120 or somewhere around that figure. And I'll keep my 60gb PS3 for as long as it continues to function, although one day I'll probably upgrade the hard drive. All these mandatory installs are starting to eat up space...

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I stopped after reading this sentence.
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Why,there console failure rate is non existence.
 
Originally posted by: BJay
Originally posted by: foghorn67
Originally posted by: destrekor
This is where Microsoft needs to seriously look to Sony for guidance. While the early PS2 was plagued with some problems (although, to date, I've had one disc read error on my launch PS2, but haven't used for nearly 2 years now), the slim PS2 was excellent as far as I've heard. The PS3 is an extremely well-built beast, with a failure rate that is perfectly normal for any consumer electronics item, especially one as complicated in architecture as the PS3. Hell, even the PSP, while plagued with bad LCDs in the beginning, is a well-built device. Sony has really stepped up in terms of hardware, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they cook up as far as slim PS3.
Microsoft seems to apply the same effort to their Xbox line as they do Windows. Great customer service, but not exactly top-notch product at the outset. The fact they haven't fixed the 360 by this point in its life, doesn't give me much hope for the future. I doubt I'll ever own one, unless it gains some excellent exclusives that never see the light of day on the PC, then I might pick one up when they reach $120 or somewhere around that figure. And I'll keep my 60gb PS3 for as long as it continues to function, although one day I'll probably upgrade the hard drive. All these mandatory installs are starting to eat up space...

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I stopped after reading this sentence.
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Why,there console failure rate is non existence.
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The ps3 currently doesn't have issues. the Ps2 on the other hand had the DRE issue that sony denied for years. By the time they admitted to it people have already moved on buying a 2nd console or shelled otu the 140 bucks to have the laser replaced.

the 360s RROD simply got more press, bigger coverage because the internet today is much bigger than it was 8 years ago.

Microsoft in a rush to get the 360 out simply cut corners. The original xbox did not any hardware issues beyond crap drives that microsoft replaced and eventually took out of their supply line. I've seen more complaints from people screwing up modding there systems.

Sony, Nintendo and company that does electronics are guilt of trying to cut corners somewhere in there product to cut profits. Accepting slightly higher failure rates. Hell the companies that make individual parts are willing to cheat here and there to make a profit.
 
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: BJay
Originally posted by: foghorn67
Originally posted by: destrekor
This is where Microsoft needs to seriously look to Sony for guidance. While the early PS2 was plagued with some problems (although, to date, I've had one disc read error on my launch PS2, but haven't used for nearly 2 years now), the slim PS2 was excellent as far as I've heard. The PS3 is an extremely well-built beast, with a failure rate that is perfectly normal for any consumer electronics item, especially one as complicated in architecture as the PS3. Hell, even the PSP, while plagued with bad LCDs in the beginning, is a well-built device. Sony has really stepped up in terms of hardware, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they cook up as far as slim PS3.
Microsoft seems to apply the same effort to their Xbox line as they do Windows. Great customer service, but not exactly top-notch product at the outset. The fact they haven't fixed the 360 by this point in its life, doesn't give me much hope for the future. I doubt I'll ever own one, unless it gains some excellent exclusives that never see the light of day on the PC, then I might pick one up when they reach $120 or somewhere around that figure. And I'll keep my 60gb PS3 for as long as it continues to function, although one day I'll probably upgrade the hard drive. All these mandatory installs are starting to eat up space...

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Click to expand...

I stopped after reading this sentence.
Click to expand...


Why,there console failure rate is non existence.
Click to expand...

The ps3 currently doesn't have issues. the Ps2 on the other hand had the DRE issue that sony denied for years. By the time they admitted to it people have already moved on buying a 2nd console or shelled otu the 140 bucks to have the laser replaced.

the 360s RROD simply got more press, bigger coverage because the internet today is much bigger than it was 8 years ago.

Microsoft in a rush to get the 360 out simply cut corners. The original xbox did not any hardware issues beyond crap drives that microsoft replaced and eventually took out of their supply line. I've seen more complaints from people screwing up modding there systems.

Sony, Nintendo and company that does electronics are guilt of trying to cut corners somewhere in there product to cut profits. Accepting slightly higher failure rates. Hell the companies that make individual parts are willing to cheat here and there to make a profit.
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Well who cares about the old gen console,its all about this gen and the ps3 is built like a tank.
 
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