XBOX 360 HD DVD will connect to PC via USB :)

[tuteja1986]

http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/17/xbox-hd-dvd-drive-to-connect-to-pcs-via-usb/

What are your thoughts :?

 

[MrX8503]

sounds interesting. This could be a good way to get a cheap HD DVD Player.

If enough interest is there it will be cracked someway somehow.

 

[Auric]

$200 is still a lot for a player and external is clunky. Internal for $100 would be more compelling but still not for me as I ain't got HDCP.

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: MrX8503
sounds interesting. This could be a good way to get a cheap HD DVD Player.

If enough interest is there it will be cracked someway somehow.

Don't worry , alot of Xbox Modding Development Team have promised to hack it

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I intend to purchase it for my 360; if it turns out I can use it with my PC too, even better.

 

[JackBurton]

Nice! I can already hear the MPAA throwing a fit once the HDCP protection gets broken.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Nice! I can already hear the MPAA throwing a fit once the HDCP protection gets broken.

They must know it is inevitable after seeing Sony's copy proof beaten with a sharpie :laugh:

BTW, in order to leverage hardware decode with a PC vid card, what will be required? It will use "Xenos" on the 360, but will custom graphics drivers and software players be need along with the HD-DVD drivers, to accomplish it? Without it, will there be a quality difference? Many here have CPUs that can handle the workload, but will PQ suffer without GPU assist?

 

[zephyrprime]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Nice! I can already hear the MPAA throwing a fit once the HDCP protection gets broken.

They must know it is inevitable after seeing Sony's copy proof beaten with a sharpie :laugh:

BTW, in order to leverage hardware decode with a PC vid card, what will be required? It will use "Xenos" on the 360, but will custom graphics drivers and software players be need along with the HD-DVD drivers, to accomplish it? Without it, will there be a quality difference? Many here have CPUs that can handle the workload, but will PQ suffer without GPU assist?

PureVideo and avivo should handle it. hdvd is h.264 based isn't it?

 

[tuteja1986]

well ATI is developing the AVIVO h.264 and VLC playback for the xbox 360 HD-DVD playback.

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Nice! I can already hear the MPAA throwing a fit once the HDCP protection gets broken.

They must know it is inevitable after seeing Sony's copy proof beaten with a sharpie :laugh:

BTW, in order to leverage hardware decode with a PC vid card, what will be required? It will use "Xenos" on the 360, but will custom graphics drivers and software players be need along with the HD-DVD drivers, to accomplish it? Without it, will there be a quality difference? Many here have CPUs that can handle the workload, but will PQ suffer without GPU assist?

PureVideo and avivo should handle it. hdvd is h.264 based isn't it?

VC-1. Mpeg2 and AVC HP/H.264 is also part of the mandatory spec but all US studio releases have been and will be (for now) using VC-1.

 

[AmdInside]

Even with the last Xbox 360 major update, DVD playback just looks terrible compared to my Panny DVD player. I aint holding my breat on the HD DVD player being any good.

 

[SpeedZealot369]

Originally posted by: Auric
$200 is still a lot for a player and external is clunky. Internal for $100 would be more compelling but still not for me as I ain't got HDCP.

I disagree, $200 is cheap as hell for something like this.

Edit

Especially if you can use it on the pc too. That is gonna be huge.

 

[Auric]

Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369

Originally posted by: Auric
$200 is still a lot for a player and external is clunky. Internal for $100 would be more compelling but still not for me as I ain't got HDCP.

I disagree, $200 is cheap as hell for something like this.

Edit

Especially if you can use it on the pc too. That is gonna be huge.

Actually, I misstated player when in fact it is just a reader so comprises even less of the required components to play HD-DVD on a PC. Indeed, while it may be a crucial component for those discs it could in some respects be considered the least important and not particularly desirable at this time given alternate sources of HD content -particularly sans restrictions. More important are an adequate display, GPU/CPU and player/decoder and optionally tuner and/or intarweb bandwidth.

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: AmdInside
Even with the last Xbox 360 major update, DVD playback just looks terrible compared to my Panny DVD player. I aint holding my breat on the HD DVD player being any good.

DVD playback was done by some stupid team , HD-DVD playback is done by ATI.

 

[TigersHere]

Hum, also said that avis will be able to be played through the xbox into the HDTVs in a patch making having to converted to wmv or mpeg a great move
Splinter cells will be in 1080P
Now this HD drive connecting to a PC

Seems the advantages sony had are disapeering.....plus the 360 has the better games, Gears, Halo 3, etc

FOr me I like that the HD drive is left out and thus a 600 buck starting price

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: TigersHere
Hum, also said that avis will be able to be played through the xbox into the HDTVs in a patch making having to converted to wmv or mpeg a great move
Splinter cells will be in 1080P
Now this HD drive connecting to a PC

Seems the advantages sony had are disapeering.....plus the 360 has the better games, Gears, Halo 3, etc

FOr me I like that the HD drive is left out and thus a 600 buck starting price

games worth buying when they come out this year or next year :
Gears of War
Lost planet
Mass effect
Crack down
Bio shock
Halo 3
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Forza Motorsport
Splinter Cell double agent
Alan Wake
crossfire
kane & Lynch : Dead man
Darkness
Assassin's Creed
Resident Evil 5
Phantasy Star Universe
Burnout 5

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: AmdInside
Even with the last Xbox 360 major update, DVD playback just looks terrible compared to my Panny DVD player. I aint holding my breat on the HD DVD player being any good.

From all reports so far, the add on PQ is on par with the HD-A1 HD DVD player. If that isn't satisfactory, not sure what to say........

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: TigersHere
Hum, also said that avis will be able to be played through the xbox into the HDTVs in a patch making having to converted to wmv or mpeg a great move
Splinter cells will be in 1080P
Now this HD drive connecting to a PC

Seems the advantages sony had are disapeering.....plus the 360 has the better games, Gears, Halo 3, etc

FOr me I like that the HD drive is left out and thus a 600 buck starting price

games worth buying when they come out this year or next year :
Gears of War
Lost planet
Mass effect
Crack down
Bio shock
Halo 3
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Forza Motorsport
Splinter Cell double agent
Alan Wake
crossfire
kane & Lynch : Dead man
Darkness
Assassin's Creed
Resident Evil 5
Phantasy Star Universe
Burnout 5

Now make that list only exclusives. It'll be a fair bit smaller.

 

[tuteja1986]

[/quote]

Now make that list only exclusives. It'll be a fair bit smaller.[/quote]

: games that will never come out on PS3 or Wii
Gears of War
Rockstar Table Tennis
Dead Rising
Project Gotham 5
Fable 2
Lost planet
Mass effect
Crack down
Bio shock
Halo 3
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Forza Motorsport
Splinter Cell 5
Alan Wake
Crossfire
Kane & Lynch : dead man

 

[CaiNaM]

microsoft stated it would not connect to a pc. they also stated it would be for movies only - no game content.

the article doesn't even really say it will connect, only mentioning a "theoretical hack"...

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM
microsoft stated it would not connect to a pc. they also stated it would be for movies only - no game content.

the article doesn't even really say it will connect, only mentioning a "theoretical hack"...

Amir (Corporate VP of Consumer Media Division at MS) already stated that it'll be detected as an optical drive on a PC.

I expect 3rd party software to allow for PC playback shortly after.

 

[zephyrprime]

Even if it wasn't detectable, that doesn't rule out connecting to a PC. Any standard compliant usb device can connect to a pc with the right drivers. Maybe MS won't ever provide the drivers for the PC but if so, there could be a third party driver if someone cared enough to write one.

 

[her34]

Originally posted by: RobertR1

Originally posted by: CaiNaM
microsoft stated it would not connect to a pc. they also stated it would be for movies only - no game content.

the article doesn't even really say it will connect, only mentioning a "theoretical hack"...

Amir (Corporate VP of Consumer Media Division at MS) already stated that it'll be detected as an optical drive on a PC.

I expect 3rd party software to allow for PC playback shortly after.

what's going to be required for hd-dvd playback? just the drive and a software player? vista? video card with component out (will dvi to hdtv work)? hdcp videocard?

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369

Originally posted by: Auric
$200 is still a lot for a player and external is clunky. Internal for $100 would be more compelling but still not for me as I ain't got HDCP.

I disagree, $200 is cheap as hell for something like this.

Edit

Especially if you can use it on the pc too. That is gonna be huge.

No it's not. Especially when you can get the real Toshiba player for around $350 these days, not some drive not may or may not work and even if it does will have to be connected to a PC.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: RobertR1

Originally posted by: AmdInside
Even with the last Xbox 360 major update, DVD playback just looks terrible compared to my Panny DVD player. I aint holding my breat on the HD DVD player being any good.

From all reports so far, the add on PQ is on par with the HD-A1 HD DVD player. If that isn't satisfactory, not sure what to say........

Yeah without any HDMI. So what are they comparing, component outs on both players?