Xbox 360 and my HDTV issues

[Heller]

ok guys long story short i got this tv
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4872141

for $400 from a buddy of mine

now, i've never owned a HDTV and from what i can tell, impressed

BUT

for some reason, from a distance the x360 is perfectly crystal clear, gears looks WONDERFUL and all is good, but from a close eye, the words (lettering) get blurry, and the 360 dashboard menus (letters/words) are distorted, now its hard to explain but the lettering in the 360 in and out of game seemed distorted and somewhat a burr.

also the 360 will no work in 720p the screen basically distorts it self in numerous colors and repeats it self in 4 different rows

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like that

but is fine in 1080i

any one have any idea what the problem is?


thanks guys

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Well I'm not certain of what the distortion could be in the dashboard, but your set doesn't support 720p so it should be going bonkers when it receives a signal in that format. Just keep it set to 1080i and you should be alright. If you have a digital camera and can grab a shot clear enough to see what your dash is looking like I might be able to help pinpoint what is going on.

 

[imported_SpitFire]

Did you select HD on the AV cable? (the switch)

 

[Heller]

yeh, hd is selected but,i know for a fact since i checked 20000 times but the set does not support 720p? is 1080i not 720p stretched?

i'd have my digital pics up alrdy but my sister did borrow my digi camera for her trip to NY.

its like the game is blurry for the words only or possibly the whole game is stretched out and i can only notice it for the words


(since there so much smaller then say Marcus's body in gears)

 

[Matt2]

ON my Dad's older projection TV there were two component inputs, one was strictly 480p only and the other was 480p/1080i.

That's a long shot I know, but you might wanna check it out and make sure.

 

[Heller]

its got two component inputs my friend .

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: Heller
its got two component inputs my friend .

I know, I just wanted to make sure that your TV didnt have one 480p *ONLY* component input and one 480p/1080i. Having the XBOX plugged into a 480p only input would create the distortion you are talking about.

I'm assuming you set the screen format to wide as well in the dashboard?

There's not too many other things it could be.

Maybe your color guns are off? Convergence issues?

Have you viewed HD content on it before and it looks ok?

 

[Heller]

well i haven't watched any hd content, only played games, but in the dashboard its set to 1080i, and the format is 16:9.

 

[Matt2]

Well I dont know what to tell you besides try and update your xbox if you havent already.

Maybe plug a progressive scan DVD player into the same component input and see if maybe the input is bad.

 

[krotchy]

Just to clarify.

720p, and 1080i are not the same thing. The television you bought is a true projection TV, meaning it uses a CRT to generate the image. Similar to older CRT's it is capable of only displaying interlaced images at its maximum. In this case i displays 540 lines ever 1/60th of a second. Every 2x540 lines = 1 full image of 1080i (1080 interlaced lines). The TV when displaying 480p is displaying 480 lines every 1/30 of a second, since this is equal to less lines than even a single 1080i field it can handle a progressive image.

LCD's, LCOS, DLPs and Plasmas on the other hand are all fixed resolution displays. They have a native resolution and can only display that. The options are 480p(EDTV), 720p(HDTV) and 1080p(Full HDTV) only. However 1080i is a fairly common format and conversion between 720p and 1080i is incredibly common to facilitate both those with Projection CRT's and the newer techs. None of the newer tech's are natively 1080i. In typically a 720p TV is called 1080i since it sounds bigger to the consumer, but in this case it just means it can handle inputting 1080i and a conversion is done. 1080p TV's on the other hand can display all 1080i and 1080p fields, and will upscale everything else to fit.

Remember there is a difference between signal format and TV format. CRT Projection is the only kind that can actually natively display 3 different native resolutions (480i/p and 1080i) and actually have that many pixels with no scaling.

 

[Heller]

thanks for the info krotchy

 

[MacAttack]

The HDTV does not support 720p. Therefore, something on the TV will have to convert the 720p signal from the Xbox 360 to 1080i. This is going to cause a lot of issues. If you don't notice them, then it is not an issue. The second point is that it is a 52" hdtv. The optimal distance for viewing an hdtv is around 2x the screen size (multiply by .1 and change inches to feet). Your best viewing distance for this tv is 10ft. As you get closer, you will begin to see the screen door effect (the black lines separating the pixels). The closer you get, the more distorted the image.