xbit labs gave GeForce FX 5200 64mb thumbs down

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DarkKnight

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
OH! but the 5200 is DX9! DX9!! DX9!!!
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What's the point of having DX9 support if it will be too slow to run games in the future that use DX9?
 
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MercenaryForHire

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Originally posted by: firemoth12
Originally posted by: DarkKnight
Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
OH! but the 5200 is DX9! DX9!! DX9!!!
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What's the point of having DX9 support if it will be too slow to run games in the future that use DX9?
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he was joking...
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Actually, more like mocking the taglines it's going to get on Dell/Compaq upgrade pages ...

[ ] Intel Extreme Integrated Video 64MB - $0
[ ] nVidia GeForce FX5200 with DirectX 9.0 Acceleration!!!!!!111!!!1! - $79

:p

- M4H
 
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Wag

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What is nVidia thinking? Lo, how the mighty have fallen.

The 5200 must be aimed directly at the OEM market, who care more about buzzwords than actual performance. Dx9 support and 8x AGP- then it must be good.
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chizow

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Where's chizow to defend the poor 5200? ;)

Just messing with ya chiz. :D
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I wouldn't put a 5200 in YOUR 'puter. ;)

Chiz <------ No love for the 5200, or any value card for that matter. :D
 
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bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: AunixM3
No point in getting the 64Mb version anyways. Get the 128Mb for about $100 and OC or just get the Ultra and ownage:

umm yeah, 5200Ultra = own
And uhh: 100fps better than the 9000Pro

Yeah.

~Aunix
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Kinda having trouble understanding why a GF3 (which is not as shock as the next one) and an MX440 are keeping up if not icing an 8500 and not just the crippled 9000... course that is just AA, the other pages show the 8500 leading most everyone else while staying a good distance behind the 4200. 9000 still hangs on to the 5200 in other areas and even surpasses in some. The 5200 really only seems to really shine in QIII and in FSAA stuff, which if you own such a card I doubt it'll be because you want to run FSAA, lol. Still very much a budget card, not a very extraordinary one either. By the time you can get one 4200's may be the same price and the 4200 will probably clearly establish itself as king of the budgets just as the 9500 Pro seems to have claimed the midrange. All these 5200s and 9200s and 5600 and 9600s are just for ATI and nVidia to make money...
 
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jjyiz28

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imho, having good scores in FSAA for a budget card is kinda pointless. lets say a new game comes out (not q3), and if the poor sap gets 15fps with fsaa on and 20 fps with fssa off, it doesn't matter which he chooses cuz it'll still run like az.

but having good fsaa on a higher end card, like a 9500 pro makes sense, since lets say you get by with 100fps but with fsaa turned on you run 80fps, a fair tradeoff, both still playable, while the former card is not.

but then lets say years from now when the 9500 pro is considered a budget card, no one will buy it for its fsaa abilities since when the games for it runs, it'll be painfully slow whether fsaa is on or off, kinda like how the 5200 is now.
 
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Keysplayr

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It all depends on which side of the fence your looking at the benchies from. It is all releative to what the person WANTS to see.
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bluemax

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The point of the article was that to ENSURE you get a 128-bit card (versus 64-bit) you should get a 128MB card!
The 128-bit path allows the 5200 Pro to keep up with a TI4200 very well! Sometimes faster, sometimes slower....

A 5200 non-pro would run about 30% slower on average. (Due to memory and clock speeds.)
 
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CurtCold

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Originally posted by: bluemax
Like I said, expect 'em in Hewlett-Packards and Compaqs everywhere! :D
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"Do0d your getting an FX!"



CurtCold gives the FX5200 a thumbs down as well....
 
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bluemax

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yeesh! I don't see what everyone's problem is! It's close in performance to a TI4200 for a reasonable amount of money.... what is the big deal?? It doesn't suck.... not by a long shot!
 
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nemesismk2

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I have a XFX GeforceFX 5200 128mb which arrived this morning, it's performance is about the same as my Geforce3 when fsaa or anisotropic filtering isn't enabled and better when fsaa or anis is enabled. The FX5200 really does need some better drivers and support from games companies. I've so far run into two problems. The first is the rubbish RTCW performance when benchmarking with the IBXT demo, I'm hoping a new patch will fix the problem. The second problem is serious sam 2 which has random pauses. There is a beta patch v1.50 which does fix the pausing problem but the timedemos don't work with the beta patch so I'm unable to benchmark it.

Apart from these problems the video card is performing well, great quality 2D and Geforce3 level performance from a video card which only cost me £61. :)

The added bonus of it being silent is cool too, the FX5200 is in my 2nd computer in the living room so noise is a problem.
 
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BoberFett

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Originally posted by: bluemax
yeesh! I don't see what everyone's problem is! It's close in performance to a TI4200 for a reasonable amount of money.... what is the big deal?? It doesn't suck.... not by a long shot!
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The benchmarks posted by AunixM3 were for a 5200 Ultra. That's going to be roughly the same price as a 4200, and has roughly equal performance in most cases. When I say roughly, I mean within 10%.

The original article linked to at the top of the thread was referring to a 64 MB 5200 non ultra. With a 64 bit memory path it's going to blow goats. If that thing costs $70, then whoever buys that card is getting ripped off.
 
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bluemax

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: bluemax
yeesh! I don't see what everyone's problem is! It's close in performance to a TI4200 for a reasonable amount of money.... what is the big deal?? It doesn't suck.... not by a long shot!
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The benchmarks posted by AunixM3 were for a 5200 Ultra. That's going to be roughly the same price as a 4200, and has roughly equal performance in most cases. When I say roughly, I mean within 10%.
The original article linked to at the top of the thread was referring to a 64 MB 5200 non ultra. With a 64 bit memory path it's going to blow goats. If that thing costs $70, then whoever buys that card is getting ripped off.
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I'll sure give you that... I'm hoping that the 5200 non-Ultra "128 bit" (128MB? we don't know yet...) will perform as expected - about 60-70% of that of the Ultra. We'll know more after more people buy and review.
 
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Mem

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Just incase anybody missed it,over at GamePC they have the Gainward?s GeForceFX 5200 and 5200 Ultra review up.

Link .
 
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sash1

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"an MX440 are keeping up if not icing an 8500 and not just the crippled 9000..."

How's that hard to believe? What, you don't trust Anand's tests?

"course that is just AA,"

which I hear over and over again that ATi is always superior in
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"By the time you can get one"

huh? 5200 is already out

"4200's may be the same price and the 4200 will probably clearly establish itself as king of the budgets"

No. The Ti4x00 line is being phased out. Just as the 8500 line will be after ATi releases the remainder of their 9x00 line.

"Why are you so in love with such an underpowered card?"

I'm not. But I see so many people bashing the card because they think "oh, because the 5800 sucks, so must the rest of these cards by nVidia."

~Aunix
 
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Wag

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nemesismk2- Could you tell us whether the 5200 has full MPEG2 decoding? nVidia has been a bit vague on that account.
 
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sash1

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Originally posted by: Wag
nemesismk2- Could you tell us whether the 5200 has full MPEG2 decoding? nVidia has been a bit vague on that account.
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Yes it does.

~Aunix

 
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