Xbit claims you need 2GB of ram

[Zebo]

I claim they are FOS because they crippled the 1024 but not allowing it it to run at 2-2-2 1T which no 2GB can run at. But instead they ran them at same timings.

Anyway good read besides that huge overlook.

However, high-performance systems have to get 2GB of RAM. Gamers are the primary user group that requires this amount of memory for comfortable gaming experience in the latest gaming titles. Moreover, 2GB of RAM or even more than that will be very handy for professionals working in ?heavy? applications processing large amounts of data.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/print/2gb-ram.html

 

[DaveSimmons]

The only real justification they offered for a gamer buying 2 GB was in the F.E.A.R. minimum framerate chart near the end:

"Note that the performance of a system with 1GB of RAM dropped below 20fps in 8% of all cases. The system with 2GB of system memory fell below the 20fps in only 1% of all cases. And in fact, this 1% is almost solely formed by auto-saving option enabled for preset checkpoints, where this discreteness doesn?t irritate at all. In other words, it is really hard to enjoy playing F.E.A.R. with the highest image quality settings if your system has only 1GB of RAM."

I'd guess this is due to the amount of memory in use rather than memory speed, so in this case the tigher RAM timing for 1 GB would not have helped.

The other charts were mostly meaningless and it's possible that using faster timings would have closed the gap between 1 GB and 2 GB.

 

[Thor86]

Yeah, but I'd never go back to 1gb with BF2. Never.

 

[Zebo]

The other charts were mostly meaningless and it's possible that using faster timings would have closed the gap between 1 GB and 2 GB.

I think it would have beat or tied it. Ras to Cas timing is huge - right after CAS. No 2GB pairs can even do 2. Many 1GB pairs can do it and all the way up to 260Mhz.

 

[KoolHonda]

Originally posted by: Thor86
Yeah, but I'd never go back to 1gb with BF2. Never.

Ditto.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Thor86
Yeah, but I'd never go back to 1gb with BF2. Never.

agreed, same goes with EQ2.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: KoolHonda

Originally posted by: Thor86
Yeah, but I'd never go back to 1gb with BF2. Never.

Ditto.

Ditto, with Photoshop CS2, MATLAB, etc. :thumbsup:

 

[Acanthus]

Battlefield 2, Everquest II, Fear, Planetside, and a few other games break 1GB.

 

[Sonikku]

Iron Forge in World of Warcraft digs it.

 

[shoRunner]

Originally posted by: Zebo

The other charts were mostly meaningless and it's possible that using faster timings would have closed the gap between 1 GB and 2 GB.

I think it would have beat or tied it. Ras to Cas timing is huge - right after CAS. No 2GB pairs can even do 2. Many 1GB pairs can do it and all the way up to 260Mhz.

wrong 2gb that can do 2-2-2 timings

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: shoRunner
wrong 2gb that can do 2-2-2 timings

obviously it can do it, but its certainly not ecpected:

We achieved incredible results with our Crucial Ballistix, but our results should be considered among the best that you can achieve with these 1GB DIMMs. Where we were able to run at 2-2-2 timings at stock voltage, we more commonly see results at DDR400 of 2-3-2. This is not to take anything away from the Ballistix 2GB kit, as it is definitely an incredible performer at the more normal results that we see in Forums.

 

[alent1234]

only have 512, but civ4 with a huge map is a major ram hog once you build up

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: shoRunner

Originally posted by: Zebo

The other charts were mostly meaningless and it's possible that using faster timings would have closed the gap between 1 GB and 2 GB.

I think it would have beat or tied it. Ras to Cas timing is huge - right after CAS. No 2GB pairs can even do 2. Many 1GB pairs can do it and all the way up to 260Mhz.

wrong 2gb that can do 2-2-2 timings

Thank for the link.. You should have kept reading.

End users are reporting that Crucial is telling them the product is End-of-Life and is no longer available. It's a real shame that we can't direct you today to where to buy this excellent memory, and it is even more puzzling that Crucial/Micron may be discontinuing the best 2GB kit that we have ever tested.

for all intents and purposes 2-2-2 2048MB does not exist since we are taling about what to get here 1GB or 2..

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Sonikku
Iron Forge in World of Warcraft digs it.

When i played wow i never broke 1GB in ironforge, it just taxes the hell out of the graphics card.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Zebo

The other charts were mostly meaningless and it's possible that using faster timings would have closed the gap between 1 GB and 2 GB.

I think it would have beat or tied it. Ras to Cas timing is huge - right after CAS. No 2GB pairs can even do 2. Many 1GB pairs can do it and all the way up to 260Mhz.

Holy crap what will i do without my 0.03% more performance!?!?!

Oh thats right, not stutter and chug.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Battlefield 2, Everquest II, Fear, Planetside, and a few other games break 1GB.

Played them all but planetside - never been over 750ish - I maintain tight control on my system like OS and driver only using 60MB. I don't deny the era of of 2GB standard is upon us for some users but I'm waiting for DDR2 to do so.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Zebo

The other charts were mostly meaningless and it's possible that using faster timings would have closed the gap between 1 GB and 2 GB.

I think it would have beat or tied it. Ras to Cas timing is huge - right after CAS. No 2GB pairs can even do 2. Many 1GB pairs can do it and all the way up to 260Mhz.

Holy crap what will i do without my 0.03% more performance!?!?!

Oh thats right, not stutter and chug.

Where are you getting these bogus numbers?

 

[Jeff7181]

I agree with Xbit. A high end system should include 2 GB of RAM. The reason is because performance is hindered quite a bit more when it becomes necessary to swap data to the hard drive than it is by running slightly higher timings. It's no secret that games and applications are only getting bigger and using more RAM. I can't think of a single piece of software who's system requirements go down with a new version. Any sane person would gladly give up ~5% across the board to eliminate pauses while data is being swapped in and out of virtual memory.

 

[tuteja1986]

2GB of ram is cheap , i remember once paying $200 for 512MB of ram

 

[seanp789]

If you do any gaming, 2GB is the new standard. You dont need for ever game, but you need it for more and more.

 

[shoRunner]

Originally posted by: rise4310
obviously it can do it, but its certainly not ecpected:

well according to zebo it can't, so maybe its not so obvious?

Originally posted by: Zebo
Thank for the link.. You should have kept reading.

End users are reporting that Crucial is telling them the product is End-of-Life and is no longer available. It's a real shame that we can't direct you today to where to buy this excellent memory, and it is even more puzzling that Crucial/Micron may be discontinuing the best 2GB kit that we have ever tested.

for all intents and purposes 2-2-2 2048MB does not exist since we are taling about what to get here 1GB or 2..

you simply said that:

2-2-2 1T which no 2GB can run at

which is wrong, i was simply correcting you. (oh and you can still get it on ebay)

 

[duragezic]

Never had BF2 or SF break 1GB for me, so I barely noticed anything going to 1.5 GB ram (now at 1.75GB). However that was with my old comp that required quite low settings, so now that I can run everythng maxed I'll have to see how the RAM usage compares.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

id never go back to 1gig now, DDR is soo cheap it seems abit daft not to have 2gigs. BF2 and FEAR run supreme now i have 2gigs probably one of the most effective upgrades ive done in a while

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Zebo

The other charts were mostly meaningless and it's possible that using faster timings would have closed the gap between 1 GB and 2 GB.

I think it would have beat or tied it. Ras to Cas timing is huge - right after CAS. No 2GB pairs can even do 2. Many 1GB pairs can do it and all the way up to 260Mhz.

Holy crap what will i do without my 0.03% more performance!?!?!

Oh thats right, not stutter and chug.

Where are you getting these bogus numbers?

Youre telling me that at the same clock, youre going to be able to get a noticeable increase from ras to cas in anything but an artificial benchmark like sandra. By only changing the ras to cas from 3 to 2. Id love to see evidence of that.

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
id never go back to 1gig now, DDR is soo cheap it seems abit daft not to have 2gigs. BF2 and FEAR run supreme now i have 2gigs probably one of the most effective upgrades ive done in a while

especially with dual cores. i can leave my DC projects running 2 instances 24/7, gaming or not.