*X950* 3DMark05 Specification page...

[Drayvn]

Well i dont really have much to say, i was astounded by this, so have a look.

http://www.pcpop.com/pcpopimg/05/2/7581951.jpg

http://www.pcpop.com/pcpopimg/05/2/6287161.jpg

Linky to the site, if any of you can read chinese or translate it for us cheers

PCPOP X950 Link

I dont know if this is fake or real, but i will leave that judgement up to you guys, im not the originator of these pics so dont go flaming and trolling, all i want is some good discussion. Thanks

 

[hans030390]

I've heard it's fake...dont listen to it...

 

[SrGuapo]

Their CPU is also socket 939, 2.8 GHz (The FSB is at 200, so it may be multiplier unlocked...) and it supports SSE3 (it is cut off a little, but it is a logical guess).

 

[mwmorph]

http://translate.google.com/translate?u...=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
google translation(my chinese isnt good enough to translate it sorry.

 

[ronnn]

fake

 

[Cheesetogo]

It looks photoshoped. If you look close there is a bit of a box around x950xt and 512mb

 

[Creig]

Anything's possible, but I'm not holding my breath until a reputable reviewer gets his hands on one.

 

[MisterChief]

Totally fake. Whoever made those pics needs to go outside, take a deep breath, sit down, and then ponder why they live a useless life.

 

[gobucks]

all i have to say is, I don't believe it till I see it. I think we were spoiled by the last major core change, since we got over a 100% gain over the previous speed kings, the 9800XT and 5950 Ultra. Even a 100% gain over the 9800 Pro would have been unusual. The fact is, most core refreshes aren't even close to 100% faster. For example, check out some old benchmarks:
GF2 Ultra v. GF3
http://www.amdmb.com/image.php?IMGURL=h...om/images/gf3-visiontek/q3a-002-op.jpg
or GF3 Ti500 v. GF4 Ti4600 (see 3dmark2001SE score)
http://www.gamingillustrated.com/xfx4600.php
or 9700 Pro v. 9800 Pro
http://www.techspot.com/reviews/hardware/sapphire_9800pro/9800-3.shtml

See, no 100% gains. Besides, I highly doubt ATI can both up the number of pipes to 24 AND bump up the clockspeed to like 800-900 MHz as was speculated. After all, look at nvidia - in order to jump from the 5950 Ultra to the 6800 Ultra, they doubled the pipelines, but the clockspeed actually went down.

 

[Rock Hydra]

I don't know if that's the newest driver, but newer cards beget newer drivers. So, if they're higher number drivers, it's quite possible (although doubtful)

 

[RussianSensation]

I could easily believe 750mhz GPU with 16 pipelines and 800mhz/900 GDDR3. What I dont believe are claims of 3x-4x the performance of current generation. Maybe at 2048x1536 with 512mb where todays 256mb cards get 10 frames, these new ones can get 40. But not across the board.

 

[imported_Hi]

that is so photoshopped even on the page it say false if you look

 

[imported_Computer MAn]

Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
It looks photoshoped. If you look close there is a bit of a box around x950xt and 512mb

 

[flexy]

a)

i dont see the score !

b)

not necessarely photoshopped...there are so many jpeg-artifacts in that picture you cant say there's a box around somewhere

 

[gobucks]

russian sensation, i agree that that's one possibility, but the rumors i've heard are for a 24-pipe design from both nvidia and ATI. If that's the case, there is no way they can hope for an 800MHz core. They'll be lucky to keep the clocks they have right now. Of course, the RAM will surely be faster - isn't GDDR4 supposed to be out soon? We might see 1.5-1.8GHz speeds for GDDR4 on these cards, which would be nice for eye candy modes, as would the 512MB framebuffer. Still, my guess is 50% faster than an X850PE, as an absolute max.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: gobucks
all i have to say is, I don't believe it till I see it. I think we were spoiled by the last major core change, since we got over a 100% gain over the previous speed kings, the 9800XT and 5950 Ultra. Even a 100% gain over the 9800 Pro would have been unusual. The fact is, most core refreshes aren't even close to 100% faster. For example, check out some old benchmarks:
GF2 Ultra v. GF3
http://www.amdmb.com/image.php?IMGURL=h...om/images/gf3-visiontek/q3a-002-op.jpg
or GF3 Ti500 v. GF4 Ti4600 (see 3dmark2001SE score)
http://www.gamingillustrated.com/xfx4600.php
or 9700 Pro v. 9800 Pro
http://www.techspot.com/reviews/hardware/sapphire_9800pro/9800-3.shtml

See, no 100% gains. Besides, I highly doubt ATI can both up the number of pipes to 24 AND bump up the clockspeed to like 800-900 MHz as was speculated. After all, look at nvidia - in order to jump from the 5950 Ultra to the 6800 Ultra, they doubled the pipelines, but the clockspeed actually went down.

they quadrupled the pipe lines.

the fx 5x00 series was 4x2 set up, and i think the 5700 2x2

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
I could easily believe 750mhz GPU with 16 pipelines and 800mhz/900 GDDR3. What I dont believe are claims of 3x-4x the performance of current generation. Maybe at 2048x1536 with 512mb where todays 256mb cards get 10 frames, these new ones can get 40. But not across the board.

well of course thats what its gonna mean isnt it. marketing do it all the time if theres even one shred of proof or one event where the chip managed to peak at 3 times the performance for like 1 second then thats good enough for them to use

 

[Drayvn]

Originally posted by: gobucks
all i have to say is, I don't believe it till I see it. I think we were spoiled by the last major core change, since we got over a 100% gain over the previous speed kings, the 9800XT and 5950 Ultra. Even a 100% gain over the 9800 Pro would have been unusual. The fact is, most core refreshes aren't even close to 100% faster. For example, check out some old benchmarks:
GF2 Ultra v. GF3
http://www.amdmb.com/image.php?IMGURL=h...om/images/gf3-visiontek/q3a-002-op.jpg
or GF3 Ti500 v. GF4 Ti4600 (see 3dmark2001SE score)
http://www.gamingillustrated.com/xfx4600.php
or 9700 Pro v. 9800 Pro
http://www.techspot.com/reviews/hardware/sapphire_9800pro/9800-3.shtml

See, no 100% gains. Besides, I highly doubt ATI can both up the number of pipes to 24 AND bump up the clockspeed to like 800-900 MHz as was speculated. After all, look at nvidia - in order to jump from the 5950 Ultra to the 6800 Ultra, they doubled the pipelines, but the clockspeed actually went down.

It only went down because it was new architecture and could do more work and a lower speed clock than the previous gen, and the fact the new architecture does more work at a lower clock and it has been tested and benched, i just have to find the website which did it...

 

[ScrewFace]

I can't wait for the Radeon X950XT! I'm sick of my old, outdated Radeon X800XT PE!:roll:

 

[Drayvn]

Im sick of my outdated X850.... oh wait ive got a few months left

 

[RussianSensation]

Let me speculate on the upgrade performance improvement from radeon 8500 to radeon 950xt. Oh no!!! at 640x480 I cant tell the difference!!! Yeah me poor college student cant afford to upgrade. But I know once I will it'll make me pretty happy.