x800pro vs. 6800gt comparison???

[James3shin]

I went to Hardocp, Hexus, Toms and so on with no results. Is anand the one and only?

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: James3shin
I went to Hardocp, Hexus, Toms and so on with no results. Is anand the one and only?

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/geforce_6800_ultra_extreme/

 

[James3shin]

thanks shady

 

[Corporate Thug]

no problem

 

[Schadenfroh]

that 6800gt looks to be the card for me

 

[vshah]

there GT OCed to 425/1.2.....not bad at all if that can be expected from retail samples

-Vivan

 

[LTC8K6]

Should be an interesting battle with retail X800Pros doing 525/1100.

 

[Dman877]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Should be an interesting battle with retail X800Pros doing 525/1100.

GT's still the ringer with 16 pipes and clocking up past Ultra levels. It's gonna come to price for me. If GT = Pro in $$ the GT is a no-brainer.

 

[LTC8K6]

Well, we'll see. The X800Pro's 12 pipes seemed to hold up pretty well against the 6800GT in benches and a 100Mhz overclock advantage can't hurt if it holds up.

A good battle will reduce prices, so I am all for the cards being neck and neck.

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
that 6800gt looks to be the card for me

same here.

 

[vapidtransit]

Yeah, but the question on my mind is "when the flying fo0k does the GT come out?"

I've got a new box sitting at home with a 4 year old card in it...and if the GT don't drop soon, I'm just going with the x800 pro.

 

[nemesismk2]

I'm very interested in getting a MSI 6800 GT, I did think about replacing my MSI FX5900 XT with it but I need vivo so goodbye 9800 Pro!

 

[Pete]

Check TechReport for a third opinion. They have the 6800UE, U, and GT vs. the X800XTPE and Pro. They also tested all cards with "brilinear," so it's as fair a comparison as you're going to get.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: Pete
Check TechReport for a third opinion. They have the 6800UE, U, and GT vs. the X800XTPE and Pro. They also tested all cards with "brilinear," so it's as fair a comparison as you're going to get.

Which article are you talking about on Techreport? The only one I could find featuring the video cards you mentioned is THIS one dated may 4th?

If you are talking about that article then it was completed way before all this ati cheating stuff was known. They even disabled the "trilinear optimizations" found on the 6800 Ultra but DIDN'T disable the optimisations for the x800 so imo the results in that review are worthless! :disgust:

"I want to address one issue before we get to the benchmark results, and that's a problem we found with the NVIDIA 61.11 beta drivers. On this page of our GeForce 6800 Ultra review, you'll see that we disabled trilinear optimizations on the GeForce 6800 Ultra card in order to get a direct comparison to the Radeon. NVIDIA has adopted a shortcut method of handling blending between mip map levels, and we turned it off because ATI doesn't use this method. NVIDIA's trilinear optimizations produce slightly lower quality images than the commonly accepted method of trilinear filtering, although it is admittedly difficult to see with the naked eye. The performance impact of this optimization isn't huge, but it can be significant in fill-rate-limited situations, as we demonstrated here."

 

[Pete]

Yes, their X800 review. Damage used the 61.11 drivers for the 6800s, so brilinear was forced on all the time. If you'd kept up with the situation as fervently as you opined about it, you'd know that you can't disable "trilinear optimizations" with the 61.11s, as the toggle does nothing (you get brilinear either way). So Damage did end up comparing brilinear to trylinear, which appear to be rather similar optimizations.

 

[Genx87]

Wow the GT is really stomping the X800 Pro here.

Definately getting one of these babies come the Fall

P.S. Just got done reading it and wow, if this baby can hit 425Mhz this will be one hell of a killer card.

 

[GeneralGrievous]

Wow the GT is really stomping the X800 Pro here.

Not really. Both of them win a similar amount of benches, with ATI winning many of the Direct3d's and Nvidia the OpenGls. But the 6800 GT does have a much better feature set.

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous

Wow the GT is really stomping the X800 Pro here.

Not really. Both of them win a similar amount of benches, with ATI winning many of the Direct3d's and Nvidia the OpenGls. But the 6800 GT does have a much better feature set.

By "better feature set" are you referring to the currently useless SM3.0 support, or the currently unusable video encoder?

 

[Genx87]

By "better feature set" are you referring to the currently useless SM3.0 support, or the currently unusable video encoder?

Maybe he got confused and meant theuseless F-Buffer, 3dc compression, and temporal AA?

 

[James3shin]

after reading reviews and comparisons, the GT seems to be the better card...now for the hard part, when does the card come to shelves???

 

[eastvillager]

...i think it is going to come down to what you can buy when, not who gets 3 more FPS in once benchmark or another.

Nvidia better get their hardware out the door.

 

[GeneralGrievous]

The 6800 GT will be here just in time for Half Life 2.

 

[Genx87]

Mid June is the timeline

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: Genx87

By "better feature set" are you referring to the currently useless SM3.0 support, or the currently unusable video encoder?

Maybe he got confused and meant theuseless F-Buffer, 3dc compression, and temporal AA?

Hey, be fair... temporal AA isn't useless (at least it works!). I do have to concede the other two.

And I haven't seen many "OMG! R420 is teh r0x0r because of its F-Buffer! NV40 sucks because it has no F-Buffer!" posts, like there have been about NV40 and its (still, for now, useless) SM3.0 support and mythical video encoder/decoder chip.

 

[Genx87]

Ya I do have to give you temporal AA. But the other two are in the same category as SM3.0. But I have a feeling SM3.0 will be implemented in games before the other two.