Buying a used video card, have good offers on two cards, a X800 Pro, and a regular 6800 that has the extra 4 pipes unlockable without artifacting. The prices are close, the X800 is an extra $25. I've been reading reviews all night, it seems like for the most part, the X800 falls between the 6800 and the 6800gt (being closer to the GT). My question is, how close would the 6800 come to the X800 (would it pass it?) thanks to the fact that the extra 4 pipes can unlock?
X800 pro or a Regular 6800 that has the extra 4 pipes unlocked?
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no the 6800 vanilla would be slower. Is the x800 pro a vivo card? You could get 4more pipes if it was
An unlocked 6800nu (16/6) is about the same thing as a Asus 6800GT 128MB. Here are a few links that may help you compare.
Asus 9999gt 128mb review
101 video cards reviewed
Asus 9999gt 128mb review
101 video cards reviewed
OK...
I just checked it out, and the X800pro will be faster. The 128MB of 700mhz 2.8ns RAM holds the 6800 back.
Is the X800pro a VIVO? Most VIVOs work with the soft mod. If it has 1.6ns rather than 2.0ns RAM, it should overclock pretty good.
Here's a good X800pro link:
X800pro shootout AGP
If you read this review, you'll find out that Gigabyte and GeCude shipped many of their X800pros with all 16 pipes working out of the box.
I just checked it out, and the X800pro will be faster. The 128MB of 700mhz 2.8ns RAM holds the 6800 back.
Is the X800pro a VIVO? Most VIVOs work with the soft mod. If it has 1.6ns rather than 2.0ns RAM, it should overclock pretty good.
Here's a good X800pro link:
X800pro shootout AGP
If you read this review, you'll find out that Gigabyte and GeCude shipped many of their X800pros with all 16 pipes working out of the box.
Where did you find that info? In the first link of your first post, it looks like the 6800 beat the X800 in pretty much everything except for Half Life 2 (the card I was looking for in the charts was "6800 gt 350/700 128mb" right?).
I'm not sure if its a VIVO, I'm waiting to hear back from the seller, but I'm assuming its not since his post said nothing about that.
Gamingphreek
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Ok there is a huge price difference here.
Think about this the 6800s are around 250-300. The X800Pro's are over 400. A VIVO is even above that.
If you can get the extra pipes, and OC the card the 6800 will win in most things. However at stock the X800Pro will be faster.
-Kevin
Think about this the 6800s are around 250-300. The X800Pro's are over 400. A VIVO is even above that.
If you can get the extra pipes, and OC the card the 6800 will win in most things. However at stock the X800Pro will be faster.
-Kevin
Well, like I said, I'm buying them used, so the price difference is only $25 more for the x800.
If the pipes unlock in the guys computer that I'm buying them from, will it definetly do the same in my machine?
If the pipes unlock in the guys computer that I'm buying them from, will it definetly do the same in my machine?
I own and like both of these cards (my X800pro is a VIVO). If the prices are similar, I would take the X800pro unless you are dedicated to D3, in which case the 6800 will be better. As for the 6800, if it unlocks (using RivaTuner) on the sellers computer, it will on yours too. When you test it, check to see that the card will overclock, even if just 1 MHz, in RT or coolbits after unlocking the masked pipelines. The built-in artifact detection is sensitive and will fail the card if there is any defect in the unlocked pipelines, even one which isn't apparent in every application.
X800 pro sounds the better deal - unlocking could always go wrong even if it *seems* to work at the moment, and like others have said the 6800 has less, slower memory which will put a big dent in performance when comparing it to a real 6800GT. You're also likely to get a better overclock with the X800 because as BlackPearl says you're highly unlikely to get an overclock after unlocking the pipes - if it did the guy selling it would almost certainly have said so to make his card sound a better deal.
Go HiS if you're getting a x800 pro. Friends HiS 9800xt overclocks rather nicely with its Iceq I cooler, mine with the Iceq II clocks even better 
This is what I was posting about:
3dMark05 1024x768 compare
X800pro 256MB 475/900 - 4543 3Dmarks
6800GT 128MB 350/700 - 3858 3Dmarks
I didn't check the other benchmarks
Well, thats great, but seeing as he's not going to be playing 3DMark, I would look at the other benchmark table. A 16/6 6800 is GOING to be faster than a 12/5 X800 ANY DAY. Also, I'm not clear on one thing with the OP: is the 6800 you're gonna get 128MB or 256MB?
Either way, an unlockable and overclockable 6800 is going to be faster than an X800Pro unless the X800Pro in question is VIVO, and seeing as how the OP said that its probably not, then the 6800 wins.
Yes, it should. But I've read about some people being able to unlock the pipes without artifacting at first, but then artifacts start showing up. It's a real risky deal if you're gonna rely on that. I'd go for the X800 Pro.
I don't know about "some people", but my 6800 has been unlocked and used daily for over 4 months with no problems developing. Any video card can fail at any time, and I haven't seen evidence that unlocking pipes with a softmod is necessarily going to make that more likely. My earlier comment about checking oc on a 6800 after the softmod was intended to test whether the unlocked pipes are defective, regardless of whether artifacts are visible in every application. Most people who report that RT will not overclock after the softmod are having the problem because the unlocked pipes are defective - maybe not grossly, but defective just the same - and the sensitive artifact tester in the oc section fails every time and, therefore, will not let you apply an overclock. I have unlocked 4 6800's and only 2 were free of defects and could be overclocked normally, just like a card which hasn't been modded. One of the 2 w/defects actually only showed artifacts in one game of 3D03 and none of my other apps, but still failed the overclocker's artifact test.
All that said, based on owning and using both cards I still think that the X800pro is a better choice at a similar price (except for the D3 fanatic) and mine, even when operated at 12 pipelines, still performs better and smoother than my 16/6 6800 in my games (FC, HL2, NFSU2,FS, CSS). The 6800 is still a great card and, if unlocked, is really high in performance per dollar. It's only beaten here because you apparently have access to a really good deal on the X800pro.
Whichever card you choose, I'm sure you will enjoy it.
All that said, based on owning and using both cards I still think that the X800pro is a better choice at a similar price (except for the D3 fanatic) and mine, even when operated at 12 pipelines, still performs better and smoother than my 16/6 6800 in my games (FC, HL2, NFSU2,FS, CSS). The 6800 is still a great card and, if unlocked, is really high in performance per dollar. It's only beaten here because you apparently have access to a really good deal on the X800pro.
Whichever card you choose, I'm sure you will enjoy it.
The x800pro vivo for 300 at newegg is the best value for agp it seems. I may be wrong about it being vivo but if it is, a XTPE bios flash would be awsome.
there is a sparkle x800pro vivo for $288. one of the best deals i've seen in a while.
x800 pro all the way man.
x800 pro all the way man.
If you get an x800pro vivo, you can unlock the pipes and overclock it to an x800xt, and that will completly destroy a 6800, pipes unlocked or not. Even if your x800pro is not vivo, you'll still see better performance.
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