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ShinX

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:beer: :beer: :beer: Post those review links here :beer: :beer: :beer:
 
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Pete

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Chip Online.de: P4C 3GHz, X800XT PE (Cat 4.5ß), 6800U (FW 60.72). The X800XT looks much stronger than the 6800U.
FiringSquad
H|OCP: P4C 3.4GHz, X800P, X800XT, 6800U. X800P ties the 6800U and the X800XT plays everything at 16x12 AA+AF--a great showing for ATi. As usual for Brent, a nice review with IQ comparison shots and even "apples to apples" benches for his critics.
Hardware.fr
Hexus: FX-51 (2.2GHz), X800XT PE, 6800U. A good showing and positive review for the X800XT PE: it ties or beats the 6800U up to 4xAA, then maintains speed with 6xAA as the 6800U's performance falls off a cliff with its 8xAA.
Meristation: Spanish, and the benches are a little confusing, but it's the first complete review out of the gate that I know of. P4 (C/E?) 3.4GHz, X800P, X800XT, 6800U.
NordicHardware: XP3200+, X800P, X800XT, 6800U. The X800s seem to get the better of the 6800U overall.
THG: Hilarious intro pic.
TR: Damage delivers the best-written review, funny and informative as usual. A64 3400+; X800XT PE, X800P (Cat 4.5ß); 6800UE, 6800U, 6800GT (FW 61.11ß). TR scores a coup, benching all the cards we're going to see/want in the near future. I can't really call a winner here, as both the X800s and the 6800s score some decisive victories. Honestly, I thought the 6800GT came out looking pretty good: it wasn't the fastest, but it seemed to fare relatively well on all the tests, performing more consistently than the equally-priced X800P, and it uses a one-slot HSF. Damage also includes power consumption figures (the 6800UE should include a warning sticker: keep away from children and small animals).
XbitLabs: Tons of benches, including some "Highly Anticipated DX9" ones. By "highly anticipated" they mean "leaked alpha." ;)

Note: I believe every X800XT we've seen today is the "PE," the Platinum Edition. This appears to be an overclocked XT, though it's possible ATi will just phase out the X800XT totally, as nV seems prepared to do with the 6800 (per Paul's articles at The Inq). In any case, I'm pretty sure the X800XT PE reviewed today will be available for sale. Per TR: "That doesn't mean, ATI assures us, that only 42 of these cards will ever ship to consumers; the X800 XT Platinum Edition will be available in quantities similar to the Radeon 9800 XT."

X800P is shipping to retailers starting today; the X800XT PE will supposedly begin shipping in two weeks.

I'll throw in my thoughts on each review as I read them. There're more links on the AT frontpage. I wonder where AT's review is? Did somebody oversleep? ;)
 
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UlricT

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wow... I was expecting the graphs to be as it is when compared to the 6800NU. THAT is impressive... wtg ATi!
 
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Originally posted by: Pete
Meristation. Spanish, and the benches are a little confusing, but it's the first complete review out of the gate that I know of. X800P, XT, 6800U, & 9800XT benched on a 3.4GHz P4 (not sure if it's a 'C' or 'E').
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somethings wierd...6800 is slower than 9800xt in a lot of places. wierd, since we've never seen that anywhere before.

x800/ultra looks to rock though

-Vivan
 
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BFG10K

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Something is wrong with some of the results at the Spanish website. As a quick example, it appears COD has vsync and/or a 60 FPS framerate cap applied to it. From past benchmarks we already know that the 6800U is 50%-100% faster than the 9800XT in COD.
 
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Sweet and the guy that thought up a post like this had 14 posts !!!
Lets hear it for us forum newbies !!!!

Im really suprised not more sites had there reviews ready for posting at 12:01

Be nice if one of these sites that makes all the money flashing adds in our face earned there pay and at least automated there reveiw instead of waking up in the moring relaxing with there coffee before they decide to post.

No dis on Anandtech by this at all, Im saying in general
 
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Well, we will all interpret that spanish review the way we want to... Myself I think it is close enough that you could buy either card and be happy. However, I do think Nvidea proves to overclock very well and that the Nvidea with PS 3.0 and driver updates will be the faster card by a small percentage and with it's Ultra Ultra release or higher clocked Ultra whatever they do. Have to wait for the rest of the reviews and benches to float on in though. So, Anand's hold your horses post turned out to be nothing more than wait and see ATI is just as fast, nothing more. So, in conclusion Nvidea has caught up to ATI this round at the very least.
 
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Originally posted by: Luthien
Well, we will all interpret that spanish review the way we want to... Myself I think it is close enough that you could buy either card and be happy. However, I do think Nvidea proves to overclock very well and that the Nvidea with PS 3.0 and driver updates will be the faster card by a small percentage and with it's Ultra Ultra release or higher clocked Ultra whatever they do. Have to wait for the rest of the reviews and benches to float on in though. So, Anand's hold your horses post turned out to be nothing more than wait and see ATI is just as fast, nothing more. So, in conclusion Nvidea has caught up to ATI this round at the very least.
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Heh. And ATi is still running on what is pretty much 2-year old technology.
 
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Falloutboy

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Originally posted by: wicktron
Originally posted by: Luthien
Well, we will all interpret that spanish review the way we want to... Myself I think it is close enough that you could buy either card and be happy. However, I do think Nvidea proves to overclock very well and that the Nvidea with PS 3.0 and driver updates will be the faster card by a small percentage and with it's Ultra Ultra release or higher clocked Ultra whatever they do. Have to wait for the rest of the reviews and benches to float on in though. So, Anand's hold your horses post turned out to be nothing more than wait and see ATI is just as fast, nothing more. So, in conclusion Nvidea has caught up to ATI this round at the very least.
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Heh. And ATi is still running on what is pretty much 2-year old technology.
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which means ati's drivers are heavely optomized while nvidias proubly has another 5%-10%+ to get out of them. plus seems to be a setup to scale upwards in clock very well
 
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SynthDude2001

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Originally posted by: Pete
Meristation. Spanish, and the benches are a little confusing, but it's the first complete review out of the gate that I know of. X800P, XT, 6800U, & 9800XT benched on a 3.4GHz P4 (not sure if it's a 'C' or 'E').
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Wow, apparently I can still read Spanish better than I thought. Too bad I'm too tired right now to actually absorb any of it though. :( :clock:
 
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Interesting... hey, everyone, look at that Spanish review. Go to page 26 (out of 28) and click on the middle pics (Nvidia on the left, ATI on the right).

They look exactly the same EXCEPT that the Nvidia has a little more detail. Look on the left, at the dude in white, in the middle. Behind him, in the nVidia pic, there`s a patch of grass. The grass is missing in the ATI screenshot. Also, there sems to be slightly more detail under the tree in the left - upper corner. However, I think the ATI image is more `even`, which makes it look a little more pleasing overall - for instance, the road ahead is less jagged.
 
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g3pro

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Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Interesting... hey, everyone, look at that Spanish review. Go to page 26 (out of 28) and click on the middle pics (Nvidia on the left, ATI on the right).

They look exactly the same EXCEPT that the Nvidia has a little more detail. Look on the left, at the dude in white, in the middle. Behind him, in the nVidia pic, there`s a patch of grass. The grass is missing in the ATI screenshot. Also, there sems to be slightly more detail under the tree in the left - upper corner. However, I think the ATI image is more `even`, which makes it look a little more pleasing overall - for instance, the road ahead is less jagged.
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hey, it's page 25. and i think you're right about that. it appears that ATi is cheating again with ground texturing just to speed up the XT. The ATi's image quality now really suffers in comparison to the nVidia card. :( :( I'm disappointed, I wanted ATi to have superior IQ this time around. :(
 
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