Question X570 Tachi , any way to know/guess which BIOS version it came with (by serial, etc) ?

[simas]

X570 Tachi , any way to know/guess which BIOS version it came with (by serial, etc)?

Received one as a gift for the new build I am starting and want to pair it with 5000 Ryzen CPU (either 5900X if I can find it or 5800X if I dont).
However, my understanding is that 5000X work on 570X chipset motherboards only after specific BIOS upgrades and I do not have earlier version of Ryzen to put in, upgrade BIOS and then use 5000X series.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thank you

 

[Muadib]

You will have to upgrade the Bios to support a Ryzen 5000 cpu. The X570 Tachi has bios flashback, so all you need is a flash drive with the current bios, and you have to provide power to it with a power supply. You don't need a cpu or memory installed to do it.

 

[simas]

You will have to upgrade the Bios to support a Ryzen 5000 cpu. The X570 Tachi has bios flashback, so all you need is a flash drive with the current bios, and you have to provide power to it with a power supply. You don't need a cpu or memory installed to do it.

Thank you. How do I know what the "current bios" is so I can flash it back properly? All I have is new motherboard and soon new CPU + RAM

 

[Muadib]

Thank you. How do I know what the "current bios" is so I can flash it back properly? All I have is new motherboard and soon new CPU + RAM

You don't need to know the current bios to replace it. If you really want to know you can call Asrock and give them the serial number. The latest version is 4.10, but a newer version should be out any day now.

Oh man looks like I was wrong about using flashback they have a note on the bios page. I would give them a call and see what they recommend you do.

ASRock X570 Taichi

Supports AMD AM4 Socket Ryzen™ 2000, 3000, 4000 G-Series, 5000 and 5000 G-Series Desktop Processors; Intel Wi-Fi 6 802.11ax (2.4Gbps) + BT 5.2; Supports DDR4 4666+ (OC); 3 PCIe 4.0 x16, 2 PCIe 4.0 x1; NVIDIA NVLink™, Quad SLI™, AMD 3-Way CrossFireX™; 7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC1220 Audio...

www.asrock.com

 

[Fanatical Meat]

You don't need to know the current bios to replace it. If you really want to know you can call Asrock and give them the serial number. The latest version is 4.10, but a newer version should be out any day now.

Oh man looks like I was wrong about using flashback they have a note on the bios page. I would give them a call and see what they recommend you do.

ASRock X570 Taichi

Supports AMD AM4 Socket Ryzen™ 2000, 3000, 4000 G-Series, 5000 and 5000 G-Series Desktop Processors; Intel Wi-Fi 6 802.11ax (2.4Gbps) + BT 5.2; Supports DDR4 4666+ (OC); 3 PCIe 4.0 x16, 2 PCIe 4.0 x1; NVIDIA NVLink™, Quad SLI™, AMD 3-Way CrossFireX™; 7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC1220 Audio...

www.asrock.com

Yeah this, I would just flash it to the most current

 

[simas]

Yeah this, I would just flash it to the most current

For the slow person who is living in a cave under a stone (myself) - you mean I can flash BIOS to motherboard without a CPU? or with CPU that is not supported yet by the BIOS on the board?? Am I missing something here? How would it even post for me to flash anything?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

For the slow person who is living in a cave under a stone (myself) - you mean I can flash BIOS to motherboard without a CPU? or with CPU that is not supported yet by the BIOS on the board?? Am I missing something here? How would it even post for me to flash anything?

As stated above I believe with some like the tiechi you can. You need a motherboard to flash, power supply and a fat 32 flash drive, plus a monitor & keyboard. Push f whatever when the splash screen appears, in bios there will be some sort of easy flash and do it.
Do a support chat with with motherboard maker to ensure it works.

 

[Muadib]

For the slow person who is living in a cave under a stone (myself) - you mean I can flash BIOS to motherboard without a CPU? or with CPU that is not supported yet by the BIOS on the board?? Am I missing something here? How would it even post for me to flash anything?

It doesn’t need to post in order to flash the bios. You should read the manual so you can understand. You also need to get in contact with Asrock to find out why they have that note on the bios you need.

 

[Steltek]

For the slow person who is living in a cave under a stone (myself) - you mean I can flash BIOS to motherboard without a CPU? or with CPU that is not supported yet by the BIOS on the board?? Am I missing something here? How would it even post for me to flash anything?

A lot of the mid-to-higher end boards (especially the more recent ones) come with a BIOS flashback feature (the manufacturers may have different names for it -- ASUS is BIOS Flashback, MSI is M-Flash, Gigabyte is Q-Flash Plus, etc) that allows updating a motherboard BIOS without a CPU installed. The board doesn't need to POST when this feature is supported (it essentially is able to read a BIOS file from a flash drive plugged into a specific USB port and can flash it after following a procedure). It is only available if the manufacturer adds it, so you'll rarely if ever see it on the cheapo boards, sometimes see it on mid-range boards, and most often on the more expensive higher end boards. It only really became feasible in the last few years since UEFI firmware has matured to the current point.

If you have an AMD CPU board that doesn't support this feature, AMD has had a program available since the 3000 series was released where they'll temporarily loan you a CPU to use to update the BIOS. I believe you have to provide them with proof of purchase of an otherwise compatible 3000/5000 series CPU and information on the make/model of motherboard you need to update in order to get the CPU.

 

[simas]

A lot of the mid-to-higher end boards (especially the more recent ones) come with a BIOS flashback feature (the manufacturers may have different names for it -- ASUS is BIOS Flashback, MSI is M-Flash, Gigabyte is Q-Flash Plus, etc) that allows updating a motherboard BIOS without a CPU installed. The board doesn't need to POST when this feature is supported (it essentially is able to read a BIOS file from a flash drive plugged into a specific USB port and can flash it after following a procedure). It is only available if the manufacturer adds it, so you'll rarely if ever see it on the cheapo boards, sometimes see it on mid-range boards, and most often on the more expensive higher end boards. It only really became feasible in the last few years since UEFI firmware has matured to the current point.

If you have an AMD CPU board that doesn't support this feature, AMD has had a program available since the 3000 series was released where they'll temporarily loan you a CPU to use to update the BIOS. I believe you have to provide them with proof of purchase of an otherwise compatible 3000/5000 series CPU and information on the make/model of motherboard you need to update in order to get the CPU.

Thank you, I searched Youtube and saw videos people showing exactly how to do it for X570 Taichi board and it looks very straightforward - get the file, rename, plug in, connect power to MB, flash. I am glad they came up with this technology as it helps in case same board chipset meant to support multiple generations of CPU design..

 

[Steltek]

Thank you, I searched Youtube and saw videos people showing exactly how to do it for X570 Taichi board and it looks very straightforward - get the file, rename, plug in, connect power to MB, flash. I am glad they came up with this technology as it helps in case same board chipset meant to support multiple generations of CPU design..

The exact procedure from page 38 of the Asrock X570 Taichi manual is shown below. The only power connection you need is the 24 pin ATX connector hooked up to the PSU and then turned on. Make sure to put the motherboard on a non-conductive surface (plain cardboard, such as the cardboard box it came in is good - do not lay it on the electrostatic bag!) before turning on the power to avoid damage or bricking due to a failed flash.

It doesn’t need to post in order to flash the bios. You should read the manual so you can understand. You also need to get in contact with Asrock to find out why they have that note on the bios you need.

The note on the BIOS page should only be relevant when updating the BIOS normally using Instant Flash (which is ASRock's regular BIOS update process technology), as Instant Flash requires a working CPU to update the BIOS.

 

[Muadib]

The exact procedure from page 38 of the Asrock X570 Taichi manual is shown below. The only power connection you need is the 24 pin ATX connector hooked up to the PSU and then turned on. Make sure to put the motherboard on a non-conductive surface (plain cardboard, such as the cardboard box it came in is good - do not lay it on the electrostatic bag!) before turning on the power to avoid damage or bricking due to a failed flash.

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The note on the BIOS page should only be relevant when updating the BIOS normally using Instant Flash (which is ASRock's regular BIOS update process technology), as Instant Flash requires a working CPU to update the BIOS.

Oh okay, I really wasn't sure, and didn't want to mess the OP up.