x38 mobos???

[tylerw13]

i know we get alot of topics on this but i havent heard anything on a time frame i really want to ditch this 680i board, my next buy will be the x38 but im getting impatient...lol anyone even seen any forums with ppl testing these boards??? thanx guys

 

[jkresh]

nobody is certain, it looks like anytime from next week to mid September. But since nobody has published any previews I wouldn't bet on retail availability all that soon.

 

[LightningRider]

This is killing me too. I want to build my new system with an X38 motherboard but if I have to wait till mid-late September then I rather go with a P35 now. I probably won't upgrade again till Nehalem after that.

What really sucks about this is that I don't know if it's coming next week or the week after or in a month or two months. If only I knew I could just decide! But nobody all says the same answer and there is nothing really concrete from what I've found on various forums.

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

Not only availability, but what about prices. My guess is that we're talking $250-$300 at launch time.

 

[jkresh]

Dethfrumbelo, $250 to $300 would be pretty good, there are some p35 boards in that range and x38 has to be more expensive, I wouldn't be shocked if there are x38 boards that are close to $400 at launch.

 

[LightningRider]

Well I haven't heard anything about prices. Where did you hear that? If they are gonna cost that much I guess I might just stick it and get a P35 mobo.

The only reason I'm holding out is that I figure the 9800GTX might make use of the extra bandwidth which I plan on getting. What do you guys think.

 

[jkresh]

LightninRider, I made that number up, but it was based on the price of some 680i boards when they came out (striker...), and the fact that dfi and asus have p35 boards that are $300. So while you might find a "Basic" x38 board for $250 to $300, I would suspect that at least at release the ASUS Rog, DFI lanparty and whatever gigabytes highest end is called will be >$350.

tyler13, what problems are you havign with your evga (and what revision is it)? I am trying to decide on a board for q6600 g0 that I should have at the end of the week and the evga is one of the boards I am considering (lanparty 680i, evga, asus blitz formula, p5k premium, lanparty p35).

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: jkresh
LightninRider, I made that number up, but it was based on the price of some 680i boards when they came out (striker...), and the fact that dfi and asus have p35 boards that are $300. So while you might find a "Basic" x38 board for $250 to $300, I would suspect that at least at release the ASUS Rog, DFI lanparty and whatever gigabytes highest end is called will be >$350.

tyler13, what problems are you havign with your evga (and what revision is it)? I am trying to decide on a board for q6600 g0 that I should have at the end of the week and the evga is one of the boards I am considering (lanparty 680i, evga, asus blitz formula, p5k premium, lanparty p35).

Sorry I have to disagree, altho neither of us has proof, I'm gonna say a basic board will be $150-$200.

 

[jkresh]

PC Surgeon you are welcome to disagree, but I doubt it will be that low (as most "basic" p35 boards are around $150, I can't see x38 boards being in the same price range).

 

[Colt4545]

X38 will not be available for purchase for consumers until mid September at the earliest. This has been stated by the marketing manager for Gigabyte. I would surmise that this will be the case for other manufacturers as well. It is already confirmed that Intel won't be shipping the chipset to the various manufacturers until the week of August 20 - 27 so don't count on boards to be available for purchase any sooner than mid September.

 

[tylerw13]

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tyler13, what problems are you havign with your evga (and what revision is it)? I am trying to decide on a board for q6600 g0 that I should have at the end of the week and the evga is one of the boards I am considering (lanparty 680i, evga, asus blitz formula, p5k premium, lanparty p35).[/quote]

it hasnt been 100 percent bad but it has some wicked fsb holes and is a killer to try to overclock with....i have the new revision that came out for the quads...i myself would steer clear of the 680i i would go with the p35 but i would rather wait and get the better mobo and new goodies that will be part of the chipset of the x38 but that is just my 2 cents

 

[BenchZowner]

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[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: jkresh
PC Surgeon you are welcome to disagree, but I doubt it will be that low (as most "basic" p35 boards are around $150, I can't see x38 boards being in the same price range).

I agree. Sub-$200 X38 boards will be a rarity. After the positive experience I've had with this Abit IP35 Pro, I'll probably be looking to get into an Abit IX38 QuadQT this fall/winter, which I'm hoping will be sub-$300.

 

[LightningRider]

Well if it's really going to be mid-september as you are all saying I guess I will get a P35 board.

Does anyone think it's really going to make a difference to wait for the X38? Anyone think the 9800GTX will make use of the higher bandwidth?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: LightningRider
Well if it's really going to be mid-september as you are all saying I guess I will get a P35 board.

Does anyone think it's really going to make a difference to wait for the X38? Anyone think the 9800GTX will make use of the higher bandwidth?

the chipset won't offer anything for your video card. That's not what new motherboards do. The PCIe 2.0 thing probably won't add anything significant to warrant a wait on it. Reember AGP 4x to 8x?

I'm not even sure what the big deal with the x38 is. I mean most of the P965 boards overclocked higher than the 975x. I wonder if we won't see similar results for this P35 vs. X38 thing. I think most ppl are only interested in the marketing hyped standards like PCIe 2.0.

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

Originally posted by: LightningRider
Well if it's really going to be mid-september as you are all saying I guess I will get a P35 board.

Does anyone think it's really going to make a difference to wait for the X38? Anyone think the 9800GTX will make use of the higher bandwidth?

Since the 8900GTS/X's aren't even out yet, how can anyone speculate on the 9800GTX? That'll be at least a year away. You can get a good P35 now for $130, keep it for 12-18 months, sell it if possible, and then get yourself a good PCI-e 2.0 mobo for a reasonable price instead of paying a premium at launch time.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo

Originally posted by: LightningRider
Well if it's really going to be mid-september as you are all saying I guess I will get a P35 board.

Does anyone think it's really going to make a difference to wait for the X38? Anyone think the 9800GTX will make use of the higher bandwidth?

Since the 8900GTS/X's aren't even out yet, how can anyone speculate on the 9800GTX? That'll be at least a year away. You can get a good P35 now for $130, keep it for 12-18 months, sell it if possible, and then get yourself a good PCI-e 2.0 mobo for a reasonable price instead of paying a premium at launch time.

When going from AGP 4x to 8x it didn't make much difference at all either way. Probably similar things here.

 

[Gary Key]

Retail boards should hit late September to early October.

 

[LightningRider]

Well the 9800GTX is supposed to be out in November. But you guys are probably right, 4x to 8x didn't really matter for a long time. Might as well just get the P35, especially if it's going to be cheaper.

 

[tylerw13]

Originally posted by: Gary Key
Retail boards should hit late September to early October.

cool thanx for the info gary....by chance do you have a board in your hands??? just wondering

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: LightningRider
Well the 9800GTX is supposed to be out in November. But you guys are probably right, 4x to 8x didn't really matter for a long time. Might as well just get the P35, especially if it's going to be cheaper.

Yes, plus I'm sure that most of the good boards based on x38 will be DDR3 only. The lower end boards may have DDR2 slots, but the main push it for DDR3 which I do not personally like. It's too much money for memory. 4GB DDR2 is cheaper than 2GB DDR3 (they don't have 2GB DDR3 sticks yet either).

 

[hans007]

i'd assume most of the x38 boards will be loaded up with tons of extra "deluxe" features like 8 extra sata ports, and a firewire port, 2 gigabit nics, a wifi nic and crap like that. i would say they will cost around what the 975x boards cost when they came out if not more.

i doubt the 9800gtx will really care about the pci-e 2.0 slot that much, pci x16 is about twice as much as an 8800gtx really uses, so unless the 9800 is really using tons of system bandwidth you probably should just save your money and buy a $140 p35 now and not bother waiting.