X3320 (Q9300) and X3350 (Q9450) available!

[OnePingOnly]

http://www.lagoom.com/INTEL_CP...artinfo-id-580363.html
X3350 (Q9450)

http://www.lagoom.com/INTEL_CP...artinfo-id-580364.html
X3320 (Q9300)

They are 775-pin and I'm sure the experience will be similar to E3110 (E8400)

I couldn't wait for NewEgg any longer.

 

[jdoggg12]

How would these stack up to an e8400 in terms of gaming? i need a cpu now, but if i'm going to get gouged on the e8400, i might as well pay a more justifiable price

 

[OnePingOnly]

The X3350 (Q9450) should do well in gaming from what I gather. I gathered opinions from other posts and many people say games don't really utilize more than two cores so the consensus believes high clock speed is more important. The Q9450 is essentially two E8200s put together. Once games become more multi-core oriented these will edge ahead.

 

[Markfw]

Well, only 15 reviews on resellerratings.com, but its 9.5 or 9.32.

 

[harpoon84]

Not bad at all, hopefully 45nm inventory is starting to build up and we won't be faced with E8400 style shortages.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Two questions:
1. Does anybody know if these will overclock better than Q9450 part?
2. Will these work in regular P35 motherboards? Apparently many P35 motherboards still need bios flash to work with 9450, I would imagine it will be even more trouble to make these work, wouldn't it?

 

[OnePingOnly]

fleshconsumed,

1. Nothing has been published nor has any member (anandtech, hardocp, tom's) mentioned overclocking one, yet. However, The E3110 clocks similarly to the E8400 according to threads from the three earlier referenced forums.

2. I'm fairly certain the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L won't be able to boot with the X3350 or Q9450 . I have an E2160 on hand to run until the final BIOS becomes available after which I'll update.

 

[OnePingOnly]

I just noticed the X3350 (Q9450) went OOS as of 1:30pm PST.

X3320 still available, though !

 

[OnePingOnly]

Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Two questions:
1. Does anybody know if these will overclock better than Q9450 part?
2. Will these work in regular P35 motherboards? Apparently many P35 motherboards still need bios flash to work with 9450, I would imagine it will be even more trouble to make these work, wouldn't it?

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Sup...el.aspx?ProductID=2629

This is the support list for Gigabyte.

 

[OnePingOnly]

Bastards,

I got an email saying they're back ordered and ETA is 3/21. Forget that ! I canceled the order.

 

[htin]

I Just ordered it on yesturday and it shipped yesturday afternoon, so they do have it in stock.

 

[johnnybhai]

Both the links mention Xeon and so forth in their description. Are they the Q9300 and Q9450 processors in fact?

 

[TheDoc9]

Both the links mention Xeon and so forth in their description. Are they the Q9300 and Q9450 processors in fact?

I'd like to know this myself, I've never heard of intel selling the exact same proc under a different name - although I'm sure it's happened. Plus compatibility is a question on my mind.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: TheDoc9

Both the links mention Xeon and so forth in their description. Are they the Q9300 and Q9450 processors in fact?

I'd like to know this myself, I've never heard of intel selling the exact same proc under a different name - although I'm sure it's happened. Plus compatibility is a question on my mind.

X3220 = Q6600

You look at pin layout. Thats whats important. If the X3350 says LGA775 then yes its indeed the xeon counterpart to the Q9450.

 

[firewolfsm]

It's not that Xeons overclock higher, but they usually end up on the upper half of all overclocks of that chip, along with the "lucky" desktop chips. They also typically have lower VIDs.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: TheDoc9

Both the links mention Xeon and so forth in their description. Are they the Q9300 and Q9450 processors in fact?

I'd like to know this myself, I've never heard of intel selling the exact same proc under a different name - although I'm sure it's happened. Plus compatibility is a question on my mind.

it is rumored that the xeon equivalent's often oc better or run on lower vid than their desktop equivalents, just like with amd the opteron 180 was rumored to be better than the x2 4800+. In all reality, I've never seen anything remotely resembling a scientific study comparing chips with the same clock speed and pin count that are marketed under different names, but if I had to guess I'd say that you should get equivalent performance.

btw, intel and amd release server and desktop variants of the exact same cpu all the time.

 

[tenax]

Originally posted by: JRussellDMD

Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Two questions:
1. Does anybody know if these will overclock better than Q9450 part?
2. Will these work in regular P35 motherboards? Apparently many P35 motherboards still need bios flash to work with 9450, I would imagine it will be even more trouble to make these work, wouldn't it?

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Sup...el.aspx?ProductID=2629

This is the support list for Gigabyte.

don't get suckered in by mobo manufacturer's "support lists"..they simply use info based on the chipset spec..i.e. a penryn quad SHOULD run on any p35..sadly, the mobo manufacturers or bios manufacturers, whomever you want to blame, have dropped the ball on having official or any bioses at all to support the quad penryns (speaking specifically to my personal experience with my 9450 on abit and gigabyte p35 chipset boards)

 

[Owls]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: TheDoc9

Both the links mention Xeon and so forth in their description. Are they the Q9300 and Q9450 processors in fact?

I'd like to know this myself, I've never heard of intel selling the exact same proc under a different name - although I'm sure it's happened. Plus compatibility is a question on my mind.

it is rumored that the xeon equivalent's often oc better or run on lower vid than their desktop equivalents, just like with amd the opteron 180 was rumored to be better than the x2 4800+. In all reality, I've never seen anything remotely resembling a scientific study comparing chips with the same clock speed and pin count that are marketed under different names, but if I had to guess I'd say that you should get equivalent performance.

btw, intel and amd release server and desktop variants of the exact same cpu all the time.

For what it's worth, my Xeon runs faster at a lower vcore than the E8400.

 

[bryanW1995]

faster at a lower vcore than YOUR e8400? or do you mean you can undervolt and overclock your xeon at the same time?

 

[TheDoc9]

Thanks for the quick replies, esp. aigomorla,firewolfsm,bryanW1995 and Owls. I'll pick one of these up, also found boxed at excaliberpc for $360, oem $350. Writing up a thread in the hot deals section soon.

Boxed version

or

OEM

 

[toadeater]

Originally posted by: JRussellDMD
Bastards,

I got an email saying they're back ordered and ETA is 3/21. Forget that ! I canceled the order.

Yeah, you have to be careful of these fly by night operations. It's a very common scam to list a hot product as in stock, but not actually have it at all. You're lucky they at least told you, some places won't tell you until you call them weeks later asking WTF is going on, then they'll say there was an "unexpected" delay and they'll have it in next week.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Originally posted by: toadeater

Originally posted by: JRussellDMD
Bastards,

I got an email saying they're back ordered and ETA is 3/21. Forget that ! I canceled the order.

Yeah, you have to be careful of these fly by night operations. It's a very common scam to list a hot product as in stock, but not actually have it at all. You're lucky they at least told you, some places won't tell you until you call them weeks later asking WTF is going on, then they'll say there was an "unexpected" delay and they'll have it in next week.

I don't think that's the case here. Resellerratings for lagoom is few but they are good. I ordered from them yesterday, got tracking number today. htin also says his cpu has been shipped. This appears to be a legit company.

 

[tenax]

guy over at hforum got his xeon version and dropped into a gigabyte p35 ds3p last night and is running it stock and it booted fine, etc. all the same instructions, family, stepping etc as a 9450 showed up in his cpu-z info. looks like the default temp as read by cpu-z is just over 1 volt which makes sense given they should a range of 1-1.4 volts as spec'd. my abit board doesn't go low enough with the current bios (1.235 in bios or 1.1 in cpu-z is it's lowest)

 

[TemjinGold]

tenax: Is that without a bios update? I'd love to get one of these if I can get a board that can boot it w/o an update as I don't have another 775 cpu to boot it with.

 

[tenax]

here's the thread..i've sent him a pm and invited him to post over here if he doesn't already with more info..

http://www.hardforum.com/showt...2247351#post1032247351