sharkeeper

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Some Dells have these here with a strange looking connector (not standard DVI but it goes into a dongle with DVI and VGA - strange!) on it.

Device mgr reports x300 pci express Radeon. Is this equal to 9600?
 

Praytus

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Dells ship with the even-slower X300 SE. I'm fairly sure you can find benchmarks for whatever games you like to play. Short answer- pretty slow
 

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All I know is that they SUCK. When I got my DELL 4700 I just got the onboard graphics cause I was gonna put a graphic card in anyway. I heard from many people (even a DELL employee) that they were junk. Your better off buying one yourself
 

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yeah this card is slow, it depends what you want to do with it...
if its mostly office work and little gaming, its an exellent choice.
for gaming its a little weak, but it'll overclock quite well... so maybe you can squize a little juice from it.
 

imported_Hi

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my parents x300se that came with their computer overclocked 45mhz and only a passive heatsink

and the x600 is equal to a 9600
 

sharkeeper

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These computers are used in an internet cafe on a cruise ship. Some people play solitaire so I don' think that's too demanding.

I don't think they'll be doing wirl or anything like that. :)
 

MDE

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The X300s are pretty much a PCIe Radeon 9200. The X600 is a PCIe 9600 (maybe a Pro or XT, not sure).
 

jpeyton

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Dell ships their computers with X300 SE cards, which will score around 1700 in 3DMark03 (default test, system configured with 3.6GHz P4). Performance wise this is equal to ATIs 9200 series cards, but the X300 is DX9 compatible (and the 9200 is not).
 

BitByBit

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I have the X300SE as you can see from my sig.
Older games like Quake III are fine, but Doom 3 is just barely playable.
The 'X300' has a 128-bit memory interface as opposed to the 64-bit interface of SE, but I doubt you'd see much of a difference there.
 

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AFAIK, X300 GPU should be a 110nm 9600 (RV360), and X600 is a 130nm low-k 9600. Both are obviously PCIe-native versions of the 9600. Don't know if that X300 you have is 64-bit (9600SE) or 128-bit (9600), or what clocks it has.

Edit: IIRC, a plain X300 and X600 should have the same clocks as a 9600, the X600 Pro as a 9600P, and the X600XT has somewhat higher mem clocks as a 9600XT. I don't think there's a X300 Pro or XT, and I'm not even sure there are 128-bit X300s, though I *think* the X300 GPU has a 128-bit interface (thus the Dell carrying cards with a SE suffix).

But really, I think it's safe to say:

Q: How fast is it?
A: Slow.
 

Concillian

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Originally posted by: sharkeeper
These computers are used in an internet cafe on a cruise ship. Some people play solitaire so I don' think that's too demanding.

This sounds like the perfect application for an x300. AS long as you aren't touching anything 3d and demanding, an x300 is perfectly fine.
 

hans007

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x300 is a 4 pipe 300mhz card. its about equal to a 9600 non pro. the x600 pro is probably closer to a 9600 pro or x600xt to 9600xt.

the x300 usually is 64bit bus though, just like 9600se's were.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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There are some X300 numbers here.

It's fine for non 3d, but you can see for yourself how it compares to a 6200, which is pretty slow already.
 
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Its slow, but considering how most systems are bundled today (latest CPU with onboard intel extreme graphics) its actually a pretty respectable start.
 

bluemax

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The X300"SE" could either be a tolerable 128-bit or an insufferable 64-bit card.

Either way, it sure as heck isn't worth the money! The 64-bit card would only be barely-noticably better than Intel's GMA900!

Either pay for the upgrade to an nVidia 6800 or just use onboard video until you can get a different card. (Note my thread on Dell 4700's and video cards - there are heat issues.)
 

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The X300 and X600 are actually the same chip. X300 is just clocker lower, and is paired with 64-bit memory, whereas the X600 is clocked higher and has 128-bit memory.
 

mrscintilla

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X300SE is slow. X300 128-bit is fine. I played farcry and many other games on the 128-bit card.
Recently I upgraded it to 6600, which can be OCed to 6600gt-like performance. I am getting 3dmark05 score around 3200.
I see there is quite a bit performance increase from x300. So my advice is to get 6600 non-gt, and overclock it. 6600 non-gt is a bit more expensive but the difference is worth it.