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X25-M Gen2 vs 3x slower SSDs in RAID 0

liarsenic

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So, I'm piecing together a new system (i7 920, HD5870), and initially was going to go with a WD Velociraptor for the system drive, but I've now decided on SSD instead. However, I know that RAID 0 scales SSD performance much better than it does for HDDs, so my question is this:

Which do you think would provide better performance, both initially and in the long run?
The Intel X25-M Gen2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167016
Or three of these PQI drives: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820141419

The Intel has advertised sequential read/writes up to 250/70, whereas the three PQI's would have a theoretical read/writes of 462/270, while also having a larger storage capacity. And although they have Intel MLCs, I haven't been able to find anything concerning PQIs and the now-emerging TRIM commands. And without TRIM commands, the PQI's could lose a significant amount of performance as I begin to fill them....but even then, would that slow them all way down equal to or slower than the Intel?

So what do you guys think? The "safe" choice of the already-blazingly-fast Intel, or the "risky" choice of the initially-faster PQIs that may slow over time? (And ultimately have a higher risk of failure, but SSDs already last so long I'm not concerned about that.)
 

Nothinman

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Neither can be considered a "safe" choice as long as you're putting them in a RAID0...
 

CurseTheSky

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I'd go with the Intel drive, and skip RAID altogether. For any new system, TRIM is something that should be on your short list of "things to have for the future."
 

liarsenic

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Neither can be considered a "safe" choice as long as you're putting them in a RAID0...
You can't make a RAID 0 array with one drive, FYI.

The debate is between a single Intel SSD (not in RAID) or three PQI SSDs (in RAID 0).
 

Nothinman

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You can't make a RAID 0 array with one drive, FYI.

The debate is between a single Intel SSD (not in RAID) or three PQI SSDs (in RAID 0).

I know how RAID0 works, which is why neither is safe. As soon as you have a problem with 1 drive you lose the entire filesystem.
 

Idontcare

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You clearly already comprehend the data safety risks associated with raid-0 given that you mentioned it already in your OP...a robust backup routine is necessary whether you raid-0 or raid-6.

Being a raid0 guy myself and already owning a nice areca controller, if I were buying SSD's today I would personally opt for the large capacity and higher R/W speeds offered by a raid-0 array of SSDs.

What raid controller are you going to use? The mobo-integrated one or you have a discrete raid controller card with some cache?

I know how RAID0 works, which is why neither is safe. As soon as you have a problem with 1 drive you lose the entire filesystem.

Which is true even if all you have is 1 drive in your system.

The risk of failure of a raid-0 array in is x^n where n is number of drives in your raid-0 array and x is the risk of failure for any single drive.

Provided x^n is accounted for then who cares how large n is scaled to? A robust backup protocol is necessary regardless the value of n and regardless the value of x.
 
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EarthwormJim

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RAID is great for servers, but not so much for desktop use. Sure it boosts sequential reads/writes, but it doesn't scale too well with small random reads/writes.

You want an SSD because of the good performance for small random reads/writes, so get the single Intel drive.

RAID is just one more complication to your system without any significant benefits from a desktop users' perspective.
 

liarsenic

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Being a raid0 guy myself and already owning a nice areca controller, if I were buying SSD's today I would personally opt for the large capacity and higher R/W speeds offered by a raid-0 array of SSDs.

What raid controller are you going to use? The mobo-integrated one or you have a discrete raid controller card with some cache?
Good point....I hadn't thought about a dedicated RAID controller vs integrated, and the latter is what I would have used, just because good dedicated cards are quite expensive. I've been running RAID 0 with software backup for a few years now on my current system with conventional 80GB drives and the integrated RAID, luckily with not a single problem.

But yeah, I decided just to go with the single Intel, as I know I'm already going to be astounded at the performance.

Thanks for the input, everyone.