Hello, I am planning to buy a laptop and have a choice of the X2 Turion or the Core Duo, I am not sure which to get as I can't find any reviews at all. If you guys can help me on making a decision that would be great. Thanks
X2 Turion vs Core Duo(Intel) which is better?
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secretanchitman
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i would stick with the core duo, as its tried and true. i *think* it uses less power than the turions (dont know about turion X2) and ive heard that you can just drop a core 2 duo when it comes out for laptops (codename merom) for around a 20% increase in performance and no power gains...as well as 64bit.
Core duo is better.
Faster and more energy efficient (I guess because TurionX2 does not have separated per-core power management) along with better chipset support (where is AMD's Yamato platform anyway?)
Faster and more energy efficient (I guess because TurionX2 does not have separated per-core power management) along with better chipset support (where is AMD's Yamato platform anyway?)
core duo is the best of the lot,but it don't have 64-bit support.
But merom(core 2 duo mobile)will destroy all of them,but it'll come out only in august.
So either go with core-duo or turion x2.
But merom(core 2 duo mobile)will destroy all of them,but it'll come out only in august.
So either go with core-duo or turion x2.
well performance wisecore duo is better.But it'll be phased out the core 2 duo(merom) in august.And the core duo doesn't have 64 bit support.
I'd say go for whichever is cheaper as they should offer similar performance.(although core duo will be on the better part of it)
And let clock speeds determine ur purchase as sometimes higher clock speeds have minimal effect.
I'd say go for whichever is cheaper as they should offer similar performance.(although core duo will be on the better part of it)
And let clock speeds determine ur purchase as sometimes higher clock speeds have minimal effect.
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Clock for clock, the Pentium M is usually faster than the Turion64.
But i find the Turion64s are often a lot less, making them a very good deal, since they are actually very similar to Centrinos for battery life.
edit: Eh, i can't read.
Core Duo vs. Turion?
Easy choice, Core Duo, unless the T64 is way less.
But i find the Turion64s are often a lot less, making them a very good deal, since they are actually very similar to Centrinos for battery life.
edit: Eh, i can't read.
Core Duo vs. Turion?
Easy choice, Core Duo, unless the T64 is way less.
don't get pentium m's right now as core duo/core solo offer far more performance.
The turion 64 x2 is what u might wanna buy,as its dualcore and has 64 bit support.From what i can gather i don't think u'll wait till merom comes out.
Get turion 64 x2 and pair it up with a good gfx card.(like a geforce go 7900 gs or mobility radeon x1800 xt)
The turion 64 x2 is what u might wanna buy,as its dualcore and has 64 bit support.From what i can gather i don't think u'll wait till merom comes out.
Get turion 64 x2 and pair it up with a good gfx card.(like a geforce go 7900 gs or mobility radeon x1800 xt)
That statement makes no sense.
Get the core duo unless there is a huge price difference which I doubt.
Go for Core Duo since 64 bit is somewhat useless. The only use I can think of is you can put 4GB more memory where I dont in laptop is not the case. Common memory size now is only 1GB. Even when Vista comes around, you will not see any difference then unless you really need more than 4GB.
64-bit is just a marketing hype..... If you can wait in August you can get Merom which will offer better performance
64-bit is just a marketing hype..... If you can wait in August you can get Merom which will offer better performance
How in the world is 64-bit marketing hype?! I personally have a Turion (single core) in my laptop and I run XP-64 and there is a slight speed difference. The only reason people say that 64-bit is marketing hype is because the software companies will not start making most of their apps 64-bit until Intel switches. Intel still has the majority of the market share.
I am not sure where people are getting the idea that Core Duo is better than X2; the X2 CPU's are not even out yet. Also, if anyone has read up on the Pentium-M architecture versus the Turion architecture they would realize that while Intel has a slight edge in internet browsing and word processing power saving performance, Turion processors have longer battery life when watching DVD's or performing CPU intensive tasks.
The reason for this is because when AMD first designed their CPU's they made it so the CPU foundation was very efficient at not making unnecessary calculations. Intel did not do this and that is why the former Pentium 4 CPU's had terrible battery life. With Pentium-M, Intel completely redesigned their processor architecture. AMD just had to make it so their processors would work effectively with less power and they could compete with the Pentium-M.
The real problem for Intel is when AMD decides to do a complete makeover for their mobile processors and design a completely new architecture for them like Intel did with the Pentium-M.
I am still a bit skeptical of the Core Duo 2 because I have heard a few people with the CPU's to report that their processor temps went up by 5C to 10C, which is a lot in my book. I expect Intel to have this worked out by the time Meorm comes out, but I will definately wait and see.
Personally, I really like what has been going on in the CPU wars because it just causes the companies to compete more for the customer base. Intel is making up a lot of ground that it lost when the Turion CPU's came out and I expect AMD to fight back just as hard. The only thing AMD has going against them is the fact that they are behind on the 65nm CPU processes. As the numbers get smaller the power consumption goes down and the processor is more efficient.
In conclusion if you are wanting the laptop to last you a few years, wait for Merom and X2 to come out because both technologies support 64-bit. If you need it now, go with the Core Duo because you can always drop in a Merom later. BUT, don't count AMD out. They make great CPU's and are just starting to get a foothold in the mobile market. Cheers!
sorry about that robert.What i meant to say is,core duo>pentium m.So i was suggesting if he was going the intel route he should get the core duo and not the pentium m.
As for the rest of it,well iwas saying if 64-bit support was an issue for him he should skip intel's current products all together and get a turion x2 or the core 2 duo(merom) when it comes out.
As for the rest of it,well iwas saying if 64-bit support was an issue for him he should skip intel's current products all together and get a turion x2 or the core 2 duo(merom) when it comes out.
Don't quite agree with you on a few things:
1. unless you are working on Linux dev, 64 bit windows gives you nothing but trouble, particularly on the driver side. I am also curious about your "speed improvement". On which application? By how much?
2. Core Duo is faster than Turion X2 according to all preview I saw. There has already been a few threads on that. Plus Turion X2 does not have independent power management per core.
3. Intel can afford to have multiple architectures dev going on at the same time. AMD could not in the past. AMD has realized this is a problem and they can not rely on one architecture to achieve success both sides. Now they have 2 teams too (one for server/desktop, one for mobile) according to the interview in Computex'06.
4. If I recalled correctly, AMD has already marked the Turion X2 as a competitor to Core Duo more in terms of price not in performance. Read from INQ though
1. unless you are working on Linux dev, 64 bit windows gives you nothing but trouble, particularly on the driver side. I am also curious about your "speed improvement". On which application? By how much?
2. Core Duo is faster than Turion X2 according to all preview I saw. There has already been a few threads on that. Plus Turion X2 does not have independent power management per core.
3. Intel can afford to have multiple architectures dev going on at the same time. AMD could not in the past. AMD has realized this is a problem and they can not rely on one architecture to achieve success both sides. Now they have 2 teams too (one for server/desktop, one for mobile) according to the interview in Computex'06.
4. If I recalled correctly, AMD has already marked the Turion X2 as a competitor to Core Duo more in terms of price not in performance. Read from INQ though
Actual power measurements show that Core Duo only has slightly higher power consumption than a similar clocked Pentium-M, and lower power consumption than a Turion MT.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article313-page5.html
I still stand on what I believe runninkyle17.... I dont see any performance boost with 64 bit except that you can scale more than 4GB of memory which as far as I can see even desktop systems are not taking advantage of this, even FX or PEE platforms.
AMD had taken shares and still eating shares due to its performance and efficiency of its design as compared to Intel's Netburst and not 64 bit. Its only in Opteron that AMD made this feature useful as server/workstation needs more memory than usual.
If Turion and Turion X2 do benefit from its 64-bit feature I can assure you that AMD will also enjoy share gains with this. If you look at it Turion gain ground basically due to price as pointed out by kknd1967
AMD had taken shares and still eating shares due to its performance and efficiency of its design as compared to Intel's Netburst and not 64 bit. Its only in Opteron that AMD made this feature useful as server/workstation needs more memory than usual.
If Turion and Turion X2 do benefit from its 64-bit feature I can assure you that AMD will also enjoy share gains with this. If you look at it Turion gain ground basically due to price as pointed out by kknd1967
It uses MT voltage. It matches the power measurement from a previous review for the MT. The ML is in the 35W range.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article300-page6.html
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