X2 6400+ and 8800GT

[Aolish]

the X2 6400+ price is now 169$ (link below), almost seems like a steal. One of the bigger problems with this processor however is the 125w it needs to power it up. I am running a thermaltake 430w (link below), will it be enough to run this processor? The current processor I'm running now is an X2 3800+ that consumes 85w. Also with the 8800GT now going at msrp prices, it almost seems like the right time to upgrade to the 8800GT, I've done heavy research if a 430w will be able to handle this card. And comments have been mixed. Some people on neweggs feedback on the TT430w are able to use the 8800GT with that PSU while others have been unsuccessful. Any insights?

My psu I'm using now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817153023

X2 6400+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819103228

 

[ionoxx]

From what i've seen, those PSUs are pretty good.

I wouldn't be too concerned with it. My rig in my sig below pull about 400W on full load. The only thing you have to worry about would be overloading a rail, as that PSU does not have a single 12V rail.

 

[v8envy]

I've seen the exact opposite. Do a google on the TR2-430W (had to open my closet to read the model off the box =) to confirm.

This PSU has 18 amps on the *SINGLE* 12 volt rail. Singular. We won't go into whether this is rated for continuous output, and whether it's rated at 0C, 23C or 50C. let's go with 18 amps * 12 volts for a grand total of 216 watts. Modern systems get most of their power from the 12v rail -- you should really consider this to be a mid range 300 watt psu with nice cable sleeving. Alternatively, it's a great PSU for an older Athlon XP rig with an AGP video card.

Compare this to an Antec EA380 -- 17 amps x 2 on the 12v rails. Nearly double the power of the '430 watt' psu. (and yes, I know you can't just add the two rails together. however, on the EA500 the 'two' 12 volt rails are actually one 34A 12v rail. Wouldn't be shocked if the EA380 is the same thing.)

If it's a brand new TR430W and inside your house and case is cool and you only have one optical drive and a nice energy efficient hard drive and CPU and it's plugged into a UPS you may be fine. But as any of those other factors change you may be pushed off the ragged edge into the 'does not work' category.

Conclusion: spend the $10 AR for an earthwatts 380 at newegg or the 500 watt coolermaster at microcenter.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

Originally posted by: ionoxx
From what i've seen, those PSUs are pretty good.

I wouldn't be too concerned with it. My rig in my sig below pull about 400W on full load. The only thing you have to worry about would be overloading a rail, as that PSU does not have a single 12V rail.

no, those psu's are pretty crappy they don't even compare to anything from seasonic/corsair/enermax/fsp/ anything along those lines

That line of tt psu's are along the 3rd/4th tier of psu's.
dunno how the new tts hold up.

 

[AsusGuy]

It only has one 18A 12V rail so I think you should look at another PSU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817139003

This Corsair has 33A on one 12V rail. Thats a good solid PSU.

 

[lopri]

Yeah I don't think the manufacturer rated 18A will cut it for 6400+ and a 8800 GT.

 

[Aolish]

Will I at least be able to use the x2 6400+? I pretty much strapped for cash right now.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm using a ThermalTake 430W for an E2140 @ 3.2Ghz, 1.425v (BIOS), and an ATI Radeon X1950Pro, a HD and a DVD burner.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: SSJGouKi
Will I at least be able to use the x2 6400+? I pretty much strapped for cash right now.

It will be fine for the CPU, but it's really cutting it close with an 8800GT. I had the 420W version of the power supply, back with a P4 prescott and an ATI 9600 AIW..it died after 3 days.a single 12v rail with 18A is deffinatly on the weak side. Some of the higher end thermaltakes aren't bad, but thats deffinatly NOT one of them..

 

[v8envy]

Originally posted by: SSJGouKi
Will I at least be able to use the x2 6400+? I pretty much strapped for cash right now.

You'll be a lot more strapped for cash if the PSU blows and takes the rest of your computer with it. Seriously, $10 for an after rebate EA380 or coolermaster 500W PSU. It's not worth gambling running right at the maximum specified power output of that PSU. You're one brownout away from in-case fireworks.

100 watts for the CPU and another 100 from the video card is right at the 216 watts the PSU is rated at. That's not counting optical or HD or fans. Or drop in efficiency once case temperature/room temperature rises. Or loss of efficiency as the PSU ages and sucks in dust. It's like driving your car in first gear at redline all the time. Sure, you can get away with it for a while but sooner or later GET OUTA THERE IT'S GONNA BLOW time.

It's a great PSU for an older Athlon or P4 rig. Those get their juice off the 3 and 5v rails. For a modern PC this is the absolutely wrong PSU.

 

[Aolish]

Hello all, just an update on things... I threw in the towel and got myself a RocketFish 700w. I got a really great deal from one of my friends since one of his friends works at best buy. I got more then half off! Anyway I have 2 questions that need answering, I ran into a peculair problem that I never ran into with PSUs. The RocketFish psu doesn't come with the usual 115/230VAC switch in the back. So how would I know whats it set to? lol Very odd how the manuel stresses that the switch has to be checked before use but there IS no switch! Am I over looking something here?

Second question, has anyone heard of the Rocketfish namebrand? Even better anyone used it? Thanks for any info anyone can give.

EDIT: Here's a pic of the PSU, just click to enlarge image. This is the exact one except mines is a different color... Anyway as you can see no 115/230 switch.

http://www.futureshop.ca/catal...665000FS10086924&catid

 

[VirtualLarry]

If it doesn't have the AC voltage selection switch in the back, that means that it has active PFC and it works with either one.

 

[nyker96]

I wouldn't recommend running it on TT branded 430W, they not too good. I'd say try pick up a new PSU on sale to replace this. Meanwhile you can probably run the parts now but not too much gaming though you might burn something.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: nyker96
I wouldn't recommend running it on TT branded 430W, they not too good. I'd say try pick up a new PSU on sale to replace this. Meanwhile you can probably run the parts now but not too much gaming though you might burn something.

I agree; there's no reason to take a chance on a questionable power supply. I like the Cooler Masters and use a 650W. The OPP can go with 500W and do just fine. This is just my opinion, of course.

 

[Glavinsolo]

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/powercalc.jsp

 

[tynopik]

here are some comments are your rocketfish

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forum.../index.php/t-3508.html

an 'ok' unit provided you got it for $40 or less

if you spent $100 on it you were majorly ripped off

 

[Aolish]

mmmmm, according to that site... i only need a 353w psu... and thats WITH a 8800GT... i must of done something wrong lol Anyway ill be sure to let everyone know how the 700w... kinda depressing how this psu is really a 550w according to the link Glavinsolo gave.