X2 4400+ | Should I get a Zalman?

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

ou see the problem with the SPCR review was simple...they fired up the zalman right away after install and didn`t allow any time or to be fair ample enough time for this particular heatsink to settle down....
they started testing immediately...thus the skewered results.....

Ummm no. How do you think they ran the software needed to test under load? How do you think they measured fan speed? Need i go on. The Scythe is hands down a better option. Less money, better cooling, and quieter (when coupled with a quality fan)

-Kevin

Ummmm YES!!! Do you think they waited 30 or even 45 minutes before starting there tests? I think Not!!

So now you ditch the XP120 and your shoving the Ninja??? seems odd to me....

But I will bite...
In all previous threads that I have posted in concerning heatsinks.... I have always stated and still will that the Ninja for now is IMO the best heatsink money can buy....

That aside for all around looks you also get solid top notch performance from the Zalman 9500.

Also you need to stay on topic...
Just because I proved the 9500 could keep instep with the XP 120 you all of a sudden bring the Ninja into this...

I am still waiting for you to show me...
Also nowhere did i say the zalman was a better cooler...did I?? ........

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

ou see the problem with the SPCR review was simple...they fired up the zalman right away after install and didn`t allow any time or to be fair ample enough time for this particular heatsink to settle down....
they started testing immediately...thus the skewered results.....

Ummm no. How do you think they ran the software needed to test under load? How do you think they measured fan speed? Need i go on. The Scythe is hands down a better option. Less money, better cooling, and quieter (when coupled with a quality fan)

-Kevin

Ummmm YES!!! Do you think they waited 30 or even 45 minutes before starting there tests? I think Not!!

So now you ditch the XP120 and your shoving the Ninja??? seems odd to me....

But I will bite...
In all previous threads that I have posted in concerning heatsinks.... I have always stated and still will that the Ninja for now is IMO the best heatsink money can buy....

That aside for all around looks you also get solid top notch performance from the Zalman 9500.

Also you need to stay on topic...
Just because I proved the 9500 could keep instep with the XP 120 you all of a sudden bring the Ninja into this...

I am still waiting for you to show me...
Also nowhere did i say the zalman was a better cooler...did I?? ........

Ive said the Ninja the entire time. I dont recall ever mentioning the XP120.

So your telling me it takes it 35-40mins to figure out that it has to throttle down or something....sorry but no.

You may be able to get decent performance, but the Zalman (dont get me wrong they make fantastic products) is much more expensive and doesn't perform as well as the competitors parts. Not really a good deal. Good quality != Good deal.

-Kevin

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

ou see the problem with the SPCR review was simple...they fired up the zalman right away after install and didn`t allow any time or to be fair ample enough time for this particular heatsink to settle down....
they started testing immediately...thus the skewered results.....

Ummm no. How do you think they ran the software needed to test under load? How do you think they measured fan speed? Need i go on. The Scythe is hands down a better option. Less money, better cooling, and quieter (when coupled with a quality fan)

-Kevin

Ummmm YES!!! Do you think they waited 30 or even 45 minutes before starting there tests? I think Not!!

So now you ditch the XP120 and your shoving the Ninja??? seems odd to me....

But I will bite...
In all previous threads that I have posted in concerning heatsinks.... I have always stated and still will that the Ninja for now is IMO the best heatsink money can buy....

That aside for all around looks you also get solid top notch performance from the Zalman 9500.

Also you need to stay on topic...
Just because I proved the 9500 could keep instep with the XP 120 you all of a sudden bring the Ninja into this...

I am still waiting for you to show me...
Also nowhere did i say the zalman was a better cooler...did I?? ........

Ive said the Ninja the entire time. I dont recall ever mentioning the XP120.

So your telling me it takes it 35-40mins to figure out that it has to throttle down or something....sorry but no.

You may be able to get decent performance, but the Zalman (dont get me wrong they make fantastic products) is much more expensive and doesn't perform as well as the competitors parts. Not really a good deal. Good quality != Good deal.

-Kevin

IT doesn't cool any better. In fact it is marginally worse, and it is most definitely loudER. Not necessarily loud but louder than some of the options for the Scythe and Thermalrights. Additionally, the Scythe and Thermalrights are typically $15-25 cheaper.

exactly you didnt mention the XP 120 per say....

yet your telling me I am wrong..yet of the 2 of us who has the Zalman 9500???
You say NO....but based on no experience with the heatsink...or am i wromg there also??

You call descent performance in the low 20`s......and exactly what my XP 120 is posting??

Sorry...but you have no clue what descent performance is if you call exemplary temps just "descent".....

Ive said the Ninja the entire time. I dont recall ever mentioning the XP120.

So your telling me it takes it 35-40mins to figure out that it has to throttle down or something....sorry but no.
Sorry but YES.....my 9500 did exactly what I am telling you it did and it is dead quiet now...do you own one? then how can you tell me I am wrong? Based on what firsthand experience??
You may be able to get decent performance, but the Zalman (dont get me wrong they make fantastic products) is much more expensive and doesn't perform as well as the competitors parts. Not really a good deal. Good quality != Good deal.

-Kevin

Again I ask you based on your own personal experience or based on reviews which we both know are subjective and depending on site to site also somewhat biased...

Foe every seemingly not so good review of the 9500 there are seemingly glowing reviews...
With quite a few sites not even mentioning what we would call a noise issue.
Perhaps because I am correct...or maybe they got defective 9500`s???

My temps with the zalman don`t lie...
I posted them many times - via screen shots.....

We shall agree to disagree...
I base my opinion of the 9500 on firsthand experience......as well as reading reviews that have been very good and very bad....

We both know cooling is subjective based on alot of variables....
I just happen to get real rock solid performance out of the 9500 and would easily rate it in my top 5 choices of heatsinks!!

Have a nice day!!

 

[corsa]

JEDIyoda!! if the Zalman was so good, why are u using Thermalright XP-120 ? I'm yet to read a review that doesnt mention the noise at full speed ....which is what concerns me most

 

[allies]

Originally posted by: corsa
JEDIyoda!! if the Zalman was so good, why are u using Thermalright XP-120 ? I'm yet to read a review that doesnt mention the noise at full speed ....which is what concerns me most

He's using the 9500 either in another computer at the moment, or saving it for his AMD build. He has mentioned this before.

 

[rise]

use the stock cooler or get an xp-90 from svc.com for ~ $30.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Sorry but YES.....my 9500 did exactly what I am telling you it did and it is dead quiet now...do you own one? then how can you tell me I am wrong? Based on what firsthand experience??

Then there is something wrong with it. A fan speed controller does not realize after 30-45mins that it needs to slow down.

Ive said the Ninja the entire time. I dont recall ever mentioning the XP120.

I see you highlighted Thermalright. I said Thermalright, not the XP-120. I was referring to their products in general.

Ill say it again, you can get the same or better cooling for $15-20 less. I dont see what you are having trouble with here. Ok so you are arguing it cools well, and it is quiet. Guess what so are the competitors (they are arguably better in fact), but they are also much cheaper on top of that.

It should be a no brainer unless the 9500 suddenly drops into a $45 price bracket.

-Kevin

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: corsa
JEDIyoda!! if the Zalman was so good, why are u using Thermalright XP-120 ? I'm yet to read a review that doesnt mention the noise at full speed ....which is what concerns me most

As I posted in other threads a while back I got the XP 120 when i got the Zalman 9500 to directly compare the 2 on my own system under conditions controlled by me...

I have since bought another computer that is just my gaming AMD rigg and it is sporting the 9500.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Sorry but YES.....my 9500 did exactly what I am telling you it did and it is dead quiet now...do you own one? then how can you tell me I am wrong? Based on what firsthand experience??

Then there is something wrong with it. A fan speed controller does not realize after 30-45mins that it needs to slow down.
Dude you obviously know nothing about how the 9500 is installed or used.
Yet you spout nonesense that makes no sense!!
The 9500 is not hard wired with a fan speed controller.
The fan speed controller comes seperate from but included with 9500.
I chose not to use the fan speed controller when I first set up the 9500 becuase I also had on order a Zalman MFC1 Multi fan speed controller.
My experience with the 9500 was exactly as stated and no where did I say nor does the Zalman literature say it has a fan speed controller hard wired to the heatsink.....

Ive said the Ninja the entire time. I dont recall ever mentioning the XP120.

I see you highlighted Thermalright. I said Thermalright, not the XP-120. I was referring to their products in general.well last time i check the XP 120 was one of there products....or am I missing something???

Ill say it again, you can get the same or better cooling for $15-20 less. I dont see what you are having trouble with here. Ok so you are arguing it cools well, and it is quiet. Guess what so are the competitors (they are arguably better in fact), but they are also much cheaper on top of that.

It should be a no brainer unless the 9500 suddenly drops into a $45 price bracket.

-Kevin

kevin if you have read any of the previous threads from when I first ordered the Zalman 9500 you will see in those threads that I never once said the 9500 was better than...as you are implying was said....

I have always stated that IMO based on personnal experience ( not flawed logic as you are using) that in my top 5 heatsink I would place the 9500....

probably #1-- Scythe Ninja.....
Most likely but not necessarily in this order...
#2-XP 90 copper or the SI 120
#3-XP 120 or the Zalman 9500
I would also have to place the Big Typhoon in that list somewhere..
With the Artic Cooler 64 pro coming in strong also....

of course those of us who have used heatsinks more than one brand understand how subjective reviews can be and how much better it is to personnaly use these to get our own ideas..

Those of us who have used these various heatsinks and have also read reviews are also amazed by the totally different results gained from using these heatsink for ourselves..

truly there are many variables and not one heatsink can truly be said to be better or the best or even marginally better.
When you consider that many tiimes on these forums people have bought even the Ninja and said my temps are worse than before or even the 9500 and said I only lowered my temps by a few degrees what gives??
Thats why what I say kicks ass to somebody else using the same heatsink they will say it sucks...
or what you claim to be marginally or marginally worse might just be the opposite to somebody else.

Have a good day!!

 

[Germonicus]

I just bought a zalman 7700 with the 120mm fan to install on my 64 4400 x2 chip,haven't actually installed any of my bits yet though.The biggest reason for my choosing this HS/F was that I read a lot of reviews where it was stated that this fan not only keeps your CPU cool but also cools the MB and GFX card too.Not really sure how much cooler or if it's even noticeable or if it's just a "nifty feature" zalman can shout about to boost sales.Anyone got any info/views about the "fallout" cooling of this product?

 

[Unkno]

hey JEDIyoda, I too own a 9500, I like it a lot but it gets a little loud IMO...i'm not saying your lying or anything (no offence intended on this post), but i was wondering how is the 9500 supposed to throttle the fan auto? Is it a setting/feature in the mobo? Only way i can do it currently is by using q-fan on my asus a8n-e. It's currently not connected to the q-fan. If it's not too much trouble, could you check the fan's rpm before and after it is silent. Thanks

 

[Unkno]

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