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wtf 2 x 2.0ghz w/ 256kb L2?
i wonder how that's gonna pan out!!
pricing? maybe 140-150 after 7/24
wtf 2 x 2.0ghz w/ 256kb L2?
i wonder how that's gonna pan out!!
pricing? maybe 140-150 after 7/24
phaxmohdem
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Looks intriguing, especially competing with the Pentium D 920-930's Would be especially badass if AMD can pull it off in one of thost 35W jobs.
Avalon
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256KB cache? Almost makes me want to call it a dual core Sempron 
It'd have to be less than $150, though, since after Conroe, the X2 3800+ will be a little above $150. I think $130 would be a good price for it, and the cache shouldn't hurt performance much. Normally for single core A64 chips, 512 -> 256 meant 3-5% performance drop. For dual core, would that be 6-10%?
It'd have to be less than $150, though, since after Conroe, the X2 3800+ will be a little above $150. I think $130 would be a good price for it, and the cache shouldn't hurt performance much. Normally for single core A64 chips, 512 -> 256 meant 3-5% performance drop. For dual core, would that be 6-10%?
RallyMaster
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interesting news...although I would prefer the 512KB L2 cache on the X2 3800+ just for the hell of it.
i wonder why didn't they get out a 1.8ghz 512k dual core, rather than a 2.0ghz 256k....maybe because they can get more chips out of a waffer...
I thought AMD was cutting CPU's because performance was so similar and it was cluttering their lines of products... this seems to go the opposite of what I thought AMD wanted to do.
I think this is only for emerging market only like Asia, I don't think this is avaialble in the North America, in any retail form to my knowledge. It's probably a disabled Manchester core. AMD doesn't have a native 2x256KB core, this are based on disabled chips.
secretanchitman
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i'd prefer the 4MB of cache on the core 2 duos! haha kidding...
that looks promising, even though the cache turns me off (256kb in my mind is low, 512kb in my mind is mainstream, 1MB and higher in my mind is performance).
and i agree with coldpower...i doubt this will be available in NA.
that looks promising, even though the cache turns me off (256kb in my mind is low, 512kb in my mind is mainstream, 1MB and higher in my mind is performance).
and i agree with coldpower...i doubt this will be available in NA.
Originally posted by: Avalon
Quite possible, plus a 2Ghz 256KB chip would be faster than a 1.8Ghz 512KB chip.
Sempron X2 3600+ baby
IDK about that. The K8 architecture doesn't need much cache, but still, going to 256KBx2 is going into Sempron range, and I can imagine this thing's performance being really bad. Maybe for $100, but no more.
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: Avalon
Quite possible, plus a 2Ghz 256KB chip would be faster than a 1.8Ghz 512KB chip.
Sempron X2 3600+ baby
IDK about that. The K8 architecture doesn't need much cache, but still, going to 256KBx2 is going into Sempron range, and I can imagine this thing's performance being really bad. Maybe for $100, but no more.
cant be as bad as say an 820 or 830
2 x K8 is a winner in my book
at least they didnt do 2 x 128kb l2.. yet
blckgrffn
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At $100, this thing would be killer, especially right now. I would convert all my 939 systems over today to get the dual core goodness going, desktop performance trumps gaming on all but one of my boxes, and these things should OC pretty well if semprons are any idication
Nat
*It looks like they are going to be AM2 if they are going to exist at all. I knew 939 was being EOL'd, but that does suck.
Nat
*It looks like they are going to be AM2 if they are going to exist at all. I knew 939 was being EOL'd, but that does suck.
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Originally posted by: AkumaX
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: Avalon
Quite possible, plus a 2Ghz 256KB chip would be faster than a 1.8Ghz 512KB chip.
Sempron X2 3600+ baby
IDK about that. The K8 architecture doesn't need much cache, but still, going to 256KBx2 is going into Sempron range, and I can imagine this thing's performance being really bad. Maybe for $100, but no more.
cant be as bad as say an 820 or 830
2 x K8 is a winner in my book
at least they didnt do 2 x 128kb l2.. yet
And 830 would probably beat the crap out of this thing. A 920 or 930 definately would.
Well' see once you get down to the 169US Athlon 64x2 3800+ price point the price intervals start shrinking, I think 140-160US is a fairly accurate guesstimate for now. Remember, this isn't a massive difference from the X2 3800+ so don't expect 1/2 the price even 3/4 of the price of the X2 3800+ would be pushing it.
Also we have no indication of when this part is going to be released, Dailytech seems to think soon, HKPEC thinks Q4 2006.
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=622344
There is also another avenue to consider, Intel will also have the E4200 processor out in Q4 as well.
Also we have no indication of when this part is going to be released, Dailytech seems to think soon, HKPEC thinks Q4 2006.
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=622344
There is also another avenue to consider, Intel will also have the E4200 processor out in Q4 as well.
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: AkumaX
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: Avalon
Quite possible, plus a 2Ghz 256KB chip would be faster than a 1.8Ghz 512KB chip.
Sempron X2 3600+ baby
IDK about that. The K8 architecture doesn't need much cache, but still, going to 256KBx2 is going into Sempron range, and I can imagine this thing's performance being really bad. Maybe for $100, but no more.
cant be as bad as say an 820 or 830
2 x K8 is a winner in my book
at least they didnt do 2 x 128kb l2.. yet
And 830 would probably beat the crap out of this thing. A 920 or 930 definately would.
I seriously doubt that. A 3800 will beat a 920 all day long. I dont see the performance of this new chip being much less than a 3800.
The performance hit of 256KB of L2 is relatively minimal on K8s. The IMC makes up for quite a bit of potential performance loss. That is why people were grabbing cheap socket 754 Semprons and OC'ing them to insane levels for a while as they turned out to be quite fast even without the extra cache.
Originally posted by: robertk2012
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: AkumaX
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: Avalon
Quite possible, plus a 2Ghz 256KB chip would be faster than a 1.8Ghz 512KB chip.
Sempron X2 3600+ baby
IDK about that. The K8 architecture doesn't need much cache, but still, going to 256KBx2 is going into Sempron range, and I can imagine this thing's performance being really bad. Maybe for $100, but no more.
cant be as bad as say an 820 or 830
2 x K8 is a winner in my book
at least they didnt do 2 x 128kb l2.. yet
And 830 would probably beat the crap out of this thing. A 920 or 930 definately would.
I seriously doubt that. A 3800 will beat a 920 all day long. I dont see the performance of this new chip being much less than a 3800.
The 3800+ beats the 920 for sure, but its not by THAT much. And we don't know how a A64 chip will perform with 256KBx2. We've only seen that little cache on Sempron's before.
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