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Socio

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My current card is dying need to get a new one soon but has to be AGP as I can not afford to build a new PCI-Express rig right now.


I want the fastest AGP card available and looks like it could be either X1950Pro AGP or 7800GS AGP.

Does anyone know if there are any side by side benchmarks comparing the two?
 
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1950 pro. We need to know what the rest of your system looks like to better answer you.
There is gonna be a x1950xt in AGP also. And if you looking for direct x 10 cards there will be agp versions of those as well.
 
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X1950 Pro of course. 7800GS is in the same performance bracket as the 6800U and 7600GT; all three are no match for the X1950 Pro.
 
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XT>PRO>GS

Apoppin had both the GS & PRO. the PRO gave him 1500-2000 more points in 3Dm05.
 
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Originally posted by: happy medium
1950 pro. We need to know what the rest of your system looks like to better answer you.
There is gonna be a x1950xt in AGP also. And if you looking for direct x 10 cards there will be agp versions of those as well.
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I am running a dual 3.06 Intel processor XP-pro rig so I am thinking the way new games are being made to support multiprocessing I will have less of an issue with CPU bottlenecking thus make better use of a fast AGP card.

At least until I can afford a new PCI Express rig with Vista.
 
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Theres not many multi-threaded games yet & the 533FSB is going to hurt you. I'd still upgrade to at least the PRO ;)
 
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I'm running a 3.06 (533 bus) overclocked to 3.35 and and a overclocked 7800gs and to be honest halflife2 is cpu bottlenecked,but games like FEAR I'm gpu bottlenecked. I think I'm right near where I need to be. I agree you'll be cpu bottlenecked with the 1950pro and your cpu ,but it won't be to bad. What resolution do you games at? Remember you need a nice power supply to run a x1950 pro.
 
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I usally run them at 1280x720 widescreen when possible or higher if FPS allow and I have a 580watt PSU so power should be ok
 
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the X1950 pro is considerably faster at stock speeds, but when the 7800GS is oc'd to 550mhz core and 1350mhz memory, it can come pretty close most of the time...but if you can afford it and have a decent CPU, go for the X1950Pro....just make sure your PSU is at least 450w with 30a on the 12v rail.
 
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Originally posted by: Stumps
the X1950 pro is considerably faster at stock speeds, but when the 7800GS is oc'd to 550mhz core and 1350mhz memory, it can come pretty close most of the time...but if you can afford it and have a decent CPU, go for the X1950Pro....just make sure your PSU is at least 450w with 30a on the 12v rail.
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I don't think so. I o/c'd my 7900GT to 606/1440 with a P4 3.8 and only managed just over 8000 in 3DMark05. Apoppin reported about 9200 or so with a 3.4EE o/c'd to 3.7 and a stock clocked X1950pro. When he had the 7800GS in there and o/c'd it, he got somewhere in the neighborhood of 6500.
 
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Originally posted by: Paratus
XT>PRO>GS

Apoppin had both the GS & PRO. the PRO gave him 1500-2000 more points in 3Dm05.
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i got 6500 in 3DMark05 with my 7800GS OC [oc'd] ... CPU was 2.80c@3.31Ghz ... same rig with x1950p/512MB was 8,000

your CPU will be a bit of a bottleneck for a x1950p ... upgrading *just* my CPU to 3.4EE@2.74Ghz got 9280.

And you *must* have a 450w PS with 30a on the 12v rail ... to properly run the pro .. the GS is not demanding at all

for your rig, a 7800GS OC would be more *balanced* ... your frame-rate is still dependent on your CPU ... you will just get more *details* with the Pro and probably more AA/AF over the 7800GS OC ;)

 
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x1950 pro and this is why! :)

x1950 pro vs geforce 7800 gs

"In comparison to the other AGP cards, the Radeon X1950 Pro is clearly in a class of its own right now. With the exception of Quake 4 (where the GeForce 7800 GS quite handily outperformed the X1950 Pro), the X1950 Pro swept all of our benchmarks, sometimes delivering over 1.5 times the performance of the GeForce 7800 GS AGP. Unless you?re a heavy Quake player, the Radeon X1950 Pro is definitely the fastest GPU out there on the AGP platform. It really isn?t all that close either."
 
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The 7800GS is sometimes even slower than the X850XT PE at stock, the 7800GS is simply a slighly upgrade feature set and more efficiently 6800 Ultra, even If I swap my card for it, it will be a sidegrade, and sometimes a downgrade. The X1950PRO particularly the HIS IceQ is the fastest AGP card on the market, period, until we can get the GeCube X1950XT which is already available in some stores in Russia and Europe.
 
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Originally posted by: evolucion8
The 7800GS is sometimes even slower than the X850XT PE at stock, the 7800GS is simply a slighly upgrade feature set and more efficiently 6800 Ultra, even If I swap my card for it, it will be a sidegrade, and sometimes a downgrade. The X1950PRO particularly the HIS IceQ is the fastest AGP card on the market, period, until we can get the GeCube X1950XT which is already available in some stores in Russia and Europe.
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the advantage the 7800GS OC has is the ability to further OC ... over the x850xt

that said, the x1950p is clearly faster ... just beware that it may be 'bottlenecked' by a slower CPU and it needs a beefy PS

How is the EE going? did you get your final OC?
mine will do 3.8G but i am not willing to overvolt a lot it to keep it there :p

if the XTX ever comes out with 512MB in AGP, i might go for it
:Q
 
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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Stumps
the X1950 pro is considerably faster at stock speeds, but when the 7800GS is oc'd to 550mhz core and 1350mhz memory, it can come pretty close most of the time...but if you can afford it and have a decent CPU, go for the X1950Pro....just make sure your PSU is at least 450w with 30a on the 12v rail.
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I don't think so. I o/c'd my 7900GT to 606/1440 with a P4 3.8 and only managed just over 8000 in 3DMark05. Apoppin reported about 9200 or so with a 3.4EE o/c'd to 3.7 and a stock clocked X1950pro. When he had the 7800GS in there and o/c'd it, he got somewhere in the neighborhood of 6500.
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what have I told you about thinking...not to do so.

I got over 8000 with my 7800GS overclocked to those clock speeds, I only get mid 9000's now with my X1950, so I would say that with in 1500 points is reasonably close.

P4's don't let the 7800GS stretch it's leg's as much as a A64 will.

 
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Damn, I feel sorry that I cannot buy it now cause I have to pay the house rent and the water bill and the cellphone bill and the CPU upgrade bill, sheesh!!! :roll:
 
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Originally posted by: AnotherGuy
Now if only that 1950XT agp came with 512mb for that price..... It'd already be sold out :)
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that's what i said :p

it'd be one card, i'd take a loss on my x1950p512M for

however, you DO know they ARE planning to release AGP rv630xt DX10 cards ...
--the 'latest' was that they are 128-bit cards that score 12K in 3DMark06 !
:Q

maybe

... at least i can afford to now *wait* with my x1950p ... i know i'd be a bit antsy waiting if i still had my x850xt ... or maybe even my 7800GS OC. ;)

even STALKER runs really well
[unbelievably]
 
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