X-Men: First Class

[lupi]

X-3 was crap.

20th century fox killed off the best characters so that Marvel studios could not continue to make x-men movies.

Everyone knew that Marvel was opening their own production studios, so 20th century made a preemptive strike so that Marvel could not move forward wit any more x-men movies.

Don't disagree, but doesn't mean marveel can't act like thaat movie never happened.

 

[AMDZen]

Who is Sebastan Shaw? Lensherr is Magneto right? I like X-men but I'm not a total nerd for them, please clarify what the main premise is

 

[zinfamous]

OP, please tell me you didn't like X-Men 3.




I actually think the trailers make it look awesome.

yeah, I thought the trailers looked pretty good.


I didn't think X-Men 3 was that bad--it was no Spider Man 3, certainly. They killed off Cyclops in the opening sequence--how could that not be universally loved?

Overall, I thought the cast was perfect and I'm rather disappointed in this habit of constantly resetting current storylines. I know it's cliche to say that Hollywood has run out of ideas, but this is ridiculous.

 

[Texashiker]

I like X-men but I'm not a total nerd for them, please clarify what the main premise is

Professor X opened a special school for mutates.

The older students in the school help fight evil mutates.

Only true mutates can join the X-men. Spiderman tried to join, and was turned down because he was not born a mutate.

 

[AMDZen]

Professor X opened a special school for mutates.

The older students in the school help fight evil mutates.

Only true mutates can join the X-men. Spiderman tried to join, and was turned down because he was not born a mutate.

Geee, thanks.

Any way I looked up who this "Sabastian Shaw" is and I never heard of him. Wasn't in any of the x-men stuff I ever saw like the old fox cartoons and the new cartoons either.

And yea I guess Lensherr is Magneto, not sure why you didn't just say Magneto but whatever.

 

[zinfamous]

X-3 was crap.

20th century fox killed off the best characters so that Marvel studios could not continue to make x-men movies.

Everyone knew that Marvel was opening their own production studios, so 20th century made a preemptive strike so that Marvel could not move forward wit any more x-men movies.

those characters weren't killed off. If you watched until after the credits, you would have realized that Xavier was very much still alive, trapped in Wolverine's mind, I believe.

just like every 5 or 10 X-Men comic books ever written: Xavier or Jean Grey dies, but NO! they transferred their mind to someone else only to be rescued later through some elaborate mental mumbo jumbo.


The overriding themes of the X-Men franchise were very much alive in the first 3 movies. The 2nd one is one of my favorite comic book films. I think going to original costumes is very lame.

 

[AMDZen]

those characters weren't killed off. If you watched until after the credits, you would have realized that Xavier was very much still alive, trapped in Wolverine's mind, I believe.

just like every 5 or 10 X-Men comic books ever written: Xavier or Jean Grey dies, but NO! they transferred their mind to someone else only to be rescued later through some elaborate mental mumbo jumbo.


The overriding themes of the X-Men franchise were very much alive in the first 3 movies. The 2nd one is one of my favorite comic book films. I think going to original costumes is very lame.

WTF? No it was in the mind of that hospital patient who was in a coma and basically brain dead. LOL

 

[Ninjahedge]

X-3 was crap.

20th century fox killed off the best characters so that Marvel studios could not continue to make x-men movies.

Everyone knew that Marvel was opening their own production studios, so 20th century made a preemptive strike so that Marvel could not move forward wit any more x-men movies.

The beauty of comics are Alternate Realities.

Just because someone else made a flik does not mean you can't re-make one that is better.

If they do it right, they will follow the same route they took with LoTR and film a trilogy in one shot, then break it up appropriately.

I think the Phoenix Saga (Starjammers et all) would be a great one to do, and do right.

Of course, a bit of modernization would be needed to correct some eggregious out-dating (Scott's Swashbuckler Dad, for instance...)...

This flik looks like it has possibilities, but they have already (seemingly) made Magneto too young. Banshee and the rest were young adults at the time of this in comic time (late 70's?) Magneto was a 9/10 year old in Nazi Germany (avoided being killed in a concentration camp by moving the bullets around him when standing in a firing line). 1940 -> 1975 = 35 years... Mag had to be at least 45 in this if they are going back to the original time.....

Anyway, I hope they get it right. They have the screenplay already written for them, why do they think they need to change it so much all the time?

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Professor X opened a special school for mutates.

The older students in the school help fight evil mutates.

Only true mutates can join the X-men. Spiderman tried to join, and was turned down because he was not born a mutate.

mutate is a verb, not a noun...

 

[Ninjahedge]

Geee, thanks.

Any way I looked up who this "Sabastian Shaw" is and I never heard of him. Wasn't in any of the x-men stuff I ever saw like the old fox cartoons and the new cartoons either.

And yea I guess Lensherr is Magneto, not sure why you didn't just say Magneto but whatever.

Part of the Hellfire Club, a rather pompous group of mutants that controlled a lot of cash. His power was the absorption of kinetic energy. The more you hit him, the stronger he got. You had to freeze him or throw him away to get him out of a fight.

You may be more familiar with the "White Queen", a psionic that was really happy in white leather outfits......

Dude, do a quick google. You will get all the info you need in 3 seconds...

 

[zinfamous]

WTF? No it was in the mind of that hospital patient who was in a coma and basically brain dead. LOL

well, whoever it was, they are very much alive.

Hell, Jean Grey had already "died" at the end of X-2, anyway.

of course, many of us knew what that phoenix meant, and we are all hoping for extreme badassery for X-3. Unfortunately, it fell way short of extreme badassery.

It was still fun, though. :\

Hell, it wasn't Terminator 4 bad. that was downright awful.

 

[Ninjahedge]

It was funky.

And not Funky funky either.

 

[SP33Demon]

What specifically is wrong with what they did that you know of? You can spoiler tag it if you want for others, but I personally don't care as I'm not sure I'll see this one any time soon. My friend mentioned something like the trailers show him in X-men gear when he NEVER was part of them... and it's a "travesty" that they have him be a part of that.

Not talking about the new one, but the old X-Men movie where Magneto and Mystique are lovers. That was the stupidest sht I've ever seen, they were never in Brotherhood together and she would have never worked for Magneto. Then adding Juggernaut to the mix just really fcked it up. Would have been nice to see Magneto's brotherhood (with Scarlet Witch) fight the original X-Men and at least get the timeline right.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Its not just a different director, its a whole other production studio.

First Class was produced by Marvel Studios.

The other x-men movies was produced by 20th century fox.

One of the reasons why Marvel opened their own production studio, was so that marvel would have creative control over the movies, and so that the movies would hold true to the comic books.

Marvel is also owned by Disney now. You can definitely bet on more x-men movies being made...Disney loves merchandise sales.

 

[Macamus Prime]

Hmm, Odin/Thor/Loki?

GODLY as in fucking awesome. Said cameos are not actual gods.

 

[waggy]

Professor X opened a special school for mutates.

The older students in the school help fight evil mutates.

Only true mutates can join the X-men. Spiderman tried to join, and was turned down because he was not born a mutate.

not 100% true. spiderman has been asked to join. he refuses saying he is not a mutant. Though Proff X says while not a natural mutant he is still a mutant in every sense.

 

[gar3555]

GODLY as in fucking awesome. Said cameos are not actual gods.

Spoiler tag and fill us in...Some of us would like to know. I had heard that

Spoiler

Wolverine(Hugh Jackman)

was one of the cameos.

 

[Texashiker]

not 100% true. spiderman has been asked to join. he refuses saying he is not a mutant. Though Proff X says while not a natural mutant he is still a mutant in every sense.

We will have to agree that we disagree, because I am not going to look through my comic collection to find that issue.

I dont remember if that was in spider-man, or the x-men comics. But either way, I am not going to look for it.

 

[KeithTalent]

I'm in. Fassbender, Matthew Vaughn, Jennifer Lawrence...what's not to love? 100% on RT with 7 reviews in last I checked.

KT

 

[Macamus Prime]

Spoiler tag and fill us in...Some of us would like to know. I had heard that

Spoiler

Wolverine(Hugh Jackman)

was one of the cameos.

SPOILER

Spoiler

Professor X and Magneto (at this point, just Erik), walk into a bar and you see a cigar in an ashtray. They walk up to the person smoking and the camera pans back, it's Wolverine. Charles and Erik say something to the extent of "We would like to have a word with,.." and Wolverine cuts them off with; "Go fuck yourselves". Prof X and Magneto turn right around and walk away. The presentation and delivery had the entire theater cheering and screaming.

The 2nd cameo is Rebecca Romijn. Mystique is trying to seduce Erik and he says; "You are too young" she then morphs into Rebecca Romijn and says; "How about this?" I do not remember the exact wording, but it was somewhere near there.

It was fucking great.

 

[Aikouka]

My friend seemed disappointed that all of the young X-Men in the movie weren't actually the first X-Men. Said something about Mystique not showing up until many years later.

 

[Newbian]

Marvel changes the movies to match the current events and changing of times.

Iron Man for example, was in vietnam in the 1960s. Well, todays conflict is in the middle east. If Marvel would have stayed "true" to the comic book, most people would not understand what was going on.

I have not really cared for the 3 xmen movies, and how well they tied in with the Marvel universe. Where was beast for the first 2 movies? Why was nightcrawler only in the second movie?

My wife and I are going to go see First Class, I just hope its better then the others.

Because Night crawler and the beast suck.

It's all about Gambit but the bastards only used him in one movie so far.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Nightcrawler is actually great in the comics... they kind of took his cajones in the movies.


Gambit is MANY years later when Storm had a run-in with Mojo I believe. About the time she started liking mohawks...... (Yes, I collected back in the day... until they started costing almost as much as full books!).

I don't know why they keep taking these pre-written classics and feeling like they have to change so much on them. CGI has gotten good enough to make decent super-power fliks now. You can make a dozen off of the X-Men, New Mutants, Excalibur and all their directly related friends w/o rehashing anything, but they seem to want to cram as much as they can all into one and ruin it for later.


Hell, the whole Wolverine Origins backstory is enough for a double feature.

 

[Macamus Prime]

It's all about Gambit but the bastards only used him in one movie so far.

And he was terrible in that movie; sucked total ass.

They even made Deadpool suck - which is impossible. Figuring out how to travel through time is easier than making Deadpool suck.

 

[waggy]

And he was terrible in that movie; sucked total ass.

They even made Deadpool suck - which is impossible. Figuring out how to travel through time is easier than making Deadpool suck.

i agree. i hated what they did to both. Deadpool was a joke. I really hope they fix it in the deadpool movie.