X-bit Labs' review of the GeForce 7900 GT

[Gamer X]

Here

 

[CaiNaM]

either it skipped by them that the x1800xt is at the same pricepoint, or wherever they are at the xt is more expensive than here in the states.. since they are comparing it to the XL:

"In most tasks it outperformed Radeon X1800 XL and in some of them it competed on equal terms with a more powerful Radeon X1800 XT."

"a lot of users will most likely prefer the newcomers to the Radeon X1800 GTO and XL based solutions. And in some cases, they may even give up Radeon X1800 XT"

ati is certainly dropping the ball in allowing this perception to persist. no wonder they are getting their ass kicked in sales.... :Q

 

[the Chase]

It's about time X-bit Labs reviewed the 7900GT. If you trust X-bit's reviews I think we can put to rest the "should I get a 7900GT or a X1800XT" threads for good.

 

[5150Joker]

Despite Xbit showing the X1800XT kicking the 7900 GT's ass in this review, I think their results tend to be inconsistent lately. Personally I think hardware.fr does a better job at testing than xbit does even if it's not as extensive and so does bit-tech.

 

[the Chase]

I just want to know what took them so long? Did they drop the first one and Nvidia refused to send them a free replacement??

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: the Chase
I just want to know what took them so long? Did they drop the first one and Nvidia refused to send them a free replacement??

Xbit is always slower, their reviews are far more extensive as a result.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Despite Xbit showing the X1800XT kicking the 7900 GT's ass in this review, I think their results tend to be inconsistent lately. Personally I think hardware.fr does a better job at testing than xbit does even if it's not as extensive and so does bit-tech.

So you have to go to France to find someone who will support your biased opinion. :roll:

Xbit has reinforced what we have all been saying....

award GeForce 7900 GT with a title of the best $299 graphics card in the today?s market.

This may hurt your ad campaign.

 

[the Chase]

How do you type something that will come across as a big sigh and then a slap on the forehead......

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: the Chase
It's about time X-bit Labs reviewed the 7900GT. If you trust X-bit's reviews I think we can put to rest the "should I get a 7900GT or a X1800XT" threads for good.

why? did you mean it's a no-brainer to choose the 512mb XT at $299 pricepoint (contradicting their statement the GT is the best card at that pricepoint)?

or the GT because they're ignorant to the fact that the more powerful Radeon X1800 XT (their words, not mine) sells for $300?

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: the Chase
I just want to know what took them so long? Did they drop the first one and Nvidia refused to send them a free replacement??

Xbit is always slower, their reviews are far more extensive as a result.

True, but a month and a half?

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Despite Xbit showing the X1800XT kicking the 7900 GT's ass in this review, I think their results tend to be inconsistent lately. Personally I think hardware.fr does a better job at testing than xbit does even if it's not as extensive and so does bit-tech.

So you have to go to France to find someone who will support your biased opinion. :roll:

Unfortunately Trollage, Xbit labs is a Russian site. Their test labs are all based in Moscow and only their servers are here.

Xbit has reinforced what we have all been saying....

award GeForce 7900 GT with a title of the best $299 graphics card in the today?s market.

This may hurt your ad campaign.

That's because they apparently aren't aware of the X1800XT being a sub $299 card you dolt. They were comparing it against the X1800XL at that price point.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Despite Xbit showing the X1800XT kicking the 7900 GT's ass in this review, I think their results tend to be inconsistent lately. Personally I think hardware.fr does a better job at testing than xbit does even if it's not as extensive and so does bit-tech.

So you have to go to France to find someone who will support your biased opinion. :roll:

Xbit has reinforced what we have all been saying....

award GeForce 7900 GT with a title of the best $299 graphics card in the today?s market.

This may hurt your ad campaign.

because they're ignorant to the fact that the "more powerful Radeon X1800 XT" (their words, not mine) sells for $300? (there's an echo in here!)

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM

Originally posted by: the Chase
It's about time X-bit Labs reviewed the 7900GT. If you trust X-bit's reviews I think we can put to rest the "should I get a 7900GT or a X1800XT" threads for good.

why? did you mean it's a no-brainer to choose the 512mb XT at $299 pricepoint (contradicting their statement the GT is the best card at that pricepoint)?

or the GT because they're ignorant to the fact that the more powerful Radeon X1800 XT (their words, not mine) sells for $300?

Heehee, read my sig.
Edit- (or the first choice)

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: the Chase

Originally posted by: CaiNaM

Originally posted by: the Chase
It's about time X-bit Labs reviewed the 7900GT. If you trust X-bit's reviews I think we can put to rest the "should I get a 7900GT or a X1800XT" threads for good.

why? did you mean it's a no-brainer to choose the 512mb XT at $299 pricepoint (contradicting their statement the GT is the best card at that pricepoint)?

or the GT because they're ignorant to the fact that the more powerful Radeon X1800 XT (their words, not mine) sells for $300?

Heehee, read my sig.

lol.. couldn't tell which you meant!

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Despite Xbit showing the X1800XT kicking the 7900 GT's ass in this review, I think their results tend to be inconsistent lately. Personally I think hardware.fr does a better job at testing than xbit does even if it's not as extensive and so does bit-tech.

So you have to go to France to find someone who will support your biased opinion. :roll:

Xbit has reinforced what we have all been saying....

award GeForce 7900 GT with a title of the best $299 graphics card in the today?s market.

This may hurt your ad campaign.

because they're ignorant to the fact that the "more powerful Radeon X1800 XT" (their words, not mine) sells for $300? (there's an echo in here!)

Yep the 256 mb X1800XT costs less than a 7900 GT and the 512 MB version is at $299 right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102629 I sent Xbit an e-mail to let them know, lets see if they amend their conclusion.

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: CaiNaM

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Despite Xbit showing the X1800XT kicking the 7900 GT's ass in this review, I think their results tend to be inconsistent lately. Personally I think hardware.fr does a better job at testing than xbit does even if it's not as extensive and so does bit-tech.

So you have to go to France to find someone who will support your biased opinion. :roll:

Xbit has reinforced what we have all been saying....

award GeForce 7900 GT with a title of the best $299 graphics card in the today?s market.

This may hurt your ad campaign.

because they're ignorant to the fact that the "more powerful Radeon X1800 XT" (their words, not mine) sells for $300? (there's an echo in here!)

Yep the 256 mb X1800XT costs less than a 7900 GT and the 512 MB version is at $299 right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102629 I sent Xbit an e-mail to let them know, lets see if they amend their conclusion.

Heh- while your at it ask them about the 1st card. Did they drop it??

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM
because they're ignorant to the fact that the "more powerful Radeon X1800 XT" (their words, not mine) sells for $300? (there's an echo in here!)

More powerful on "paper" but it seem real world results differ.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: CaiNaM
because they're ignorant to the fact that the "more powerful Radeon X1800 XT" (their words, not mine) sells for $300? (there's an echo in here!)

More powerful on "paper" but it seem real world results differ.

Well if that isn't enough to conclusively show Wreckage is not only clueless but a hardcore troll then I don't know what is. Wreckage, why don't you go dig up some 6 month old review from a no-name site for us that gives the opposite results of Xbit's review to substantiate your "claim"? :roll:

 

[Cookie Monster]

It depends. For OCing i would choose the 7900GT and if not i would buy the X1800XT. Its as simple as this.
Unless your bias toward one company.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
It depends. For OCing i would choose the 7900GT and if not i would buy the X1800XT. Its as simple as this.
Unless your bias toward one company.

For OC'ing the 7900 GT has nothing on the X1800XT. Or do you think the X1800XT is incapable of OC'ing? It uses software voltage control where with a 7900 GT you're stuck using a conductive pen and a pencil just to raise its voltages. You don't have to go far to look for real world examples, just look at The Chase's signature:

X1800XT 729/873 - 1.475 V

 

[akugami]

I'd have to agree on the slowness of Xbitlab's reviews...they used to be about two weeks later than everyone else. This is fine, but wow. Lately their last couple of reviews were over a month after the actual release of the cards.

As for the review itself while it's ok to include the X1800XL, I do not see why the X1800XT was not what the 7900GT is being compared to. Considering the street prices for these cards, the X1800XT is the main competitor to the 7900GT. This article sounds like it should have been published one month ago and not today. I also find it puzzling the overclockabililty of the cards (after volt modding) was not mentioned, if only in passing.


On a side note, waiting for certain folks to come in and castrate Gamer X for his blatant product advertisement. These people know who I'm talking about.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: akugami
On a side note, waiting for certain folks to come in and castrate Gamer X for his blatant product advertisement. These people know who I'm talking about.

Did he list the card for sale in his post or his sig? Was the price listed in the thread title? You are reaching past your grasp with that thread statement.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: CaiNaM
because they're ignorant to the fact that the "more powerful Radeon X1800 XT" (their words, not mine) sells for $300? (there's an echo in here!)

More powerful on "paper" but it seem real world results differ.

Here ya go...did you even bother to read the review???

Battlefield 2
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->87.5fps
7900GT-->66.5fps
WINNER = X1800XT

Riddick
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->44fps
7900GT-->47.4fps
WINNER = 7900GT

Call of Duty 2
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->36.7fps
7900GT-->28.9fps
WINNER = X1800XT

Doom 3
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->48.4fps
7900GT-->47.5fps
TIE I would say

FEAR
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->40fps
7900GT-->34fps
WINNER = X1800XT

Half Life 2
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->89.3fps
7900GT-->73fps
WINNER = X1800XT

Half Life 2 Lost Coast
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->32.7fps
7900GT-->32.1fps
TIE

FarCry
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->86.6fps
7900GT-->64.4fps
WINNER = X1800XT

Project Snowblind
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->70.1fps
7900GT-->67.8fps
TIE

Quake 4
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->103.3fps
7900GT-->94.5fps
WINNER = X1800XT

Serious Sam 2
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->35.8fps
7900GT-->32.4fps
TIE

Splinter Cell: CHaos Theory
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->52fps
7900GT-->41fps
WINNER = X1800XT


Age of Empires 3
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->29.3fps
7900GT-->42.5fps
WINNER = 7900GT


Warhammer
1600x1200 4AA 16AF
X1800XT-->48.4fps
7900GT-->51.7fps
TIE


SO that is 7 wins from 14 games and 5 ties and 2 wins for the 7900GT. So I guess it's not only fast on paper huh?? Oh myyy...Were you wearing those coloured glasses again. You know I thought you were somewhat rational but that went out the window.

 

[Wreckage]

In most tasks it outperformed Radeon X1800 XL and in some of them it competed on equal terms with a more powerful Radeon X1800 XT.

My point was that if it was truly more powerful it would have won all of the benchmarks. Howerver their power statement was based more on spec than actual performance.

It was not meant to say that the GT smoked the XT only that it performed well against a higher speced card.

 

[thilanliyan]

But it actually DIDN'T perform well against the X1800XT. The X1800XT won most of the benchmarks...

In your first post you quoted XBit saying the 7900GT is the best for $299. So shouldn't price be a factor also?(In which case the X1800XT for $299 is a much better buy)

And how can you say it is a higher specced card?? Because the MHz is faster?? Remember the X1800XT competed with the 7800GTX which is basically the 7900GT now with higher clocks...so the 7900GT should in fact be competing against the X1800XT, not against the X1800XL (which competed with the 7800GT).