WY congress woman wants to bring horse slaughter back to US

[Capt Caveman]

It's not a food animal in our culture.That's just cultural bias. In many other cultures it is.

A horse is livestock. Just one that the over emotional people with a horse fetish refuse to consider as a source of food. Eating a horse is no different than eating a cow.

Not in this country, go to your local stable/farm and learn something.

 

[nobodyknows]

Thank you for the information. However, I would like to make an exception that for those interested in eating horse meat in this thread to be able to eat euthanized horses here in the US. I'm sure they won't mind the drugs in their system.

I don't think too many people are really interested in eating horse flesh, but why shouldn't they be able to slaughter horses no longer useful for riding to be processed into cat food, dog food, and other byproducts?

In the final analysis, they are just livestock.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I don't think too many people are really interested in eating horse flesh, but why shouldn't they be able to slaughter horses no longer useful for riding to be processed into cat food, dog food, and other byproducts?

In the final analysis, they are just livestock.

Yet, laws say differently.

 

[vickitobin]

I don't think too many people are really interested in eating horse flesh, but why shouldn't they be able to slaughter horses no longer useful for riding to be processed into cat food, dog food, and other byproducts?

In the final analysis, they are just livestock.

Pet food has not contained horse meat since the 80s. You can have the horse rendered for byproducts. Have you not read the drug issues with US horses? Horses used in riding receive banned substances throughout their lives to maintain their health making them ineligible for human consumption.

In the final analysis, you can call them livestock but they are not food animals and that is the issue.

 

[bfdd]

Yet, laws say differently.

Laws aren't always right.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Yes, it is just a horse but it is not a food animal. It has nothing to do with being cuter. They are raised an bred to race, work, provide service, therapy, used in sports and most recently to help returning soldiers with head injuries regain their balance. Horses have had tremendous breakthroughs with the autistic.

Our mounted police do not ride cows. Pigs do not win millions in the KY Derby. You do not see livestock leading funeral processions for the military and presidents. When is the last time you saw a cow doing dressage?

Horses have nothing in common with livestock except 4 legs.

WTF ever. It's an animal it can be eaten. Just because it's purpose here has been as a servant and slave animal, does not mean it can't be eaten. Just like dogs and cats. In America it's taboo, but in other parts of the world it's perfectly normal. You can breed horses to eat if you choose to.
To essentially ban the use of a certain animal as a food source is retarded.

 

[nobodyknows]

Pet food has not contained horse meat since the 80s. You can have the horse rendered for byproducts. Have you not read the drug issues with US horses? Horses used in riding receive banned substances throughout their lives to maintain their health making them ineligible for human consumption.

In the final analysis, you can call them livestock but they are not food animals and that is the issue.

If a person wanted to raise horses for food, he could do so if he wished and not give then the restricted drugs, whateve they are?? People all over the world eat horse meat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_meat

I'v never had horse and have no burning desire to eat it anymore then I want to eat the fish in my aquarium. I'm just point out that they are domesticated livestock and we could eat them if we wanted to. Hell if you were hungry enough even you'd eat them.

 

[BladeVenom]

[Cows are tracked from birth, horses are not. There is no tracking system for horses. An attempt to implement one was shot down last year (NAIS). Horses are routinely given banned substances to maintain their health throughout their lives. If you don’t track the vet records from birth, they are not food animals.

According to the latest news cows aren't tracked either. There was a voluntary tracking system after the the mad cow disease cases, but plans for a mandatory system have been scrapped. http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...mal-id-plan-to-interstate-moves-update1-.html So now they are only going to mandate tracking for cattle involved in interstate commerce. So actually horses are safer since they don't get mad cow disease and there is no real tracking system other than what ranchers feel like keeping.

So as long as records are kept for what substances are given to horses, or quarantined long enough for any medications to leave their system, then they should be allowed to be sold as food.

 

[dbk]

how does horse meat compare to beef/pork/chicken?

 

[Ozoned]

how does horse meat compare to beef/pork/chicken?

You simply must try some basashi ice cream. It is to kill for.

 

[DougoMan]

These anti horse slaughter laws probably come from a time when people actually rode horses. Now that we don't nobody gives a shit about them. In 200 years when we all have robots we will probably feel the same way about dogs.

 

[FaaR]

In 200 years when we all have robots we will probably feel the same way about dogs.

Perhaps, but unless society takes a turn for the worst I think not.

While many societies do eat what we consider "pet" type animals (dogs, cats, guinea pigs, various lagomorphs, certain rodents and weasels and so on), they usually do so because other protein sources are expensive. Applying our own cultural bias to their habits would be rather presumptious and self-centered of us.

I personally would not eat dog (unless perhaps there was nothing else available), because of their carnivorous nature, which means that heavy metals, chemical pollutants and so on will be present in the flesh in higher concentrations than in herbivore flesh. For the same reason I would avoid cat, rat and so on.

Horses however eat grass, and would be comparatively safe. Someone also mentioned mad cow disease which would be another advantage - at least on a theoretical level - but seeing as hardly nobody ever died of eating mad cows that risk isn't really worth taking into account.

Horses are packed full of nutriciously rich, succulent, scrumptious meat. Just look at a horse's rump - it's positively begging to be cut up into giant delicious steaks and cooked to perfection. There's NO reason whatsoever not to eat them, or at least no reason that makes any sense to a rational mind anyway.

 

[DougoMan]

I personally would not eat dog (unless perhaps there was nothing else available), because of their carnivorous nature, which means that heavy metals, chemical pollutants and so on will be present in the flesh in higher concentrations than in herbivore flesh. For the same reason I would avoid cat, rat and so on.

Horses however eat grass, and would be comparatively safe. Someone also mentioned mad cow disease which would be another advantage - at least on a theoretical level - but seeing as hardly nobody ever died of eating mad cows that risk isn't really worth taking into account.

Horses are packed full of nutriciously rich, succulent, scrumptious meat. Just look at a horse's rump - it's positively begging to be cut up into giant delicious steaks and cooked to perfection. There's NO reason whatsoever not to eat them, or at least no reason that makes any sense to a rational mind anyway.

Yes I could not agree more! And now if only you would carry that argument to the next logical step...

Hehe.

(Eat the grass yourself and bypass the dirty horses and cows all together!)

 

[Fern]

how does horse meat compare to beef/pork/chicken?

Nothing at all like pork or chicken.

Looks more very lean beef. I suppose in taste closer to beef, but has a slightly sweeter flavor. Since it's so lean it's a little tougher (like London Broil etc), so it's usually served in thin slices.

Fern

 

[vickitobin]

According to the latest news cows aren't tracked either. There was a voluntary tracking system after the the mad cow disease cases, but plans for a mandatory system have been scrapped. http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...mal-id-plan-to-interstate-moves-update1-.html So now they are only going to mandate tracking for cattle involved in interstate commerce. So actually horses are safer since they don't get mad cow disease and there is no real tracking system other than what ranchers feel like keeping.

So as long as records are kept for what substances are given to horses, or quarantined long enough for any medications to leave their system, then they should be allowed to be sold as food.

If that is the case, when there are outbreaks, how are they tracing the source back to the producing farm? I haven’t seen many livestock without ear tags. BTW-doesn’t the shipping of all meat involve interstate commerce? Do you know of any meat that isn’t shipped out of state? How do you think it gets to the grocery stores? That is still a separate issue from vet records required for slaughter.

Again most of the horse meds are banned substances. There is NO withdrawal period so they can never enter the food chain. If they are going to withhold the meds so they can be slaughtered, you can say good-bye to racing and just about every function horses perform in our society.