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Wwdc 2013

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Megatomic said:
How much difference is there in the 4 and the 4S? Enough to matter?
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I would think just enough. Honestly, my 4 is just a paperweight now, its that slow. I dont have a 4S but its pretty ok on my 5. I would update a 4S with some hesitation.
 
Kaido said:
I'll fly my complaint flag:

1. No iPhone 5S? (or larger iPhone)
2. No iWatch?
3. No Retina MBA? (been waiting ages for this)
4. No Retina iPad Mini?
5. No Haswell MBP?
6. No NUC-esqe Mac Mini?

I'd really like for the Retina MBA to be my go-to machine, but I think I'll just go with an ARM-based Samsung Chromebook since half the stuff I do is in the cloud anyway 😛
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Yeah.... and where is the Apple Television already? 🙂
 
tokie said:
A whole nother core?
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So is iOS7 running slow on 4 due to a "missing" core or insufficient memory? Both? If memory is playing a large role in the lagginess then a 4S is not likely to be much better.

I'm hoping for the best as my 4S is work issued and I have ZERO chance of upgrading it. My company was late to adopt and tends to stay with decisions for good while.
 
Megatomic said:
So is iOS7 running slow on 4 due to a "missing" core or insufficient memory? Both? If memory is playing a large role in the lagginess then a 4S is not likely to be much better.

I'm hoping for the best as my 4S is work issued and I have ZERO chance of upgrading it. My company was late to adopt and tends to stay with decisions for good while.
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I would hold off until at least 7 is out of beta or wait to see if other 4S users have issues. Some apps on my ios 7 ip5 dont work, but I didnt expect all to work in 24 hours.
 
ultimatebob said:
Yeah.... and where is the Apple Television already? 🙂
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Ooh, I totally forgot about that!

I wouldn't really mind a new ATV so much as an ATV with apps. Heck, even Mad Cats is jumping on the TV app market with an Android gaming console:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/11/mad-catz-confirms-m-o-j-o-android-console/

I think a lot of people want HTPC functionality without actually have an HTPC, so something that could just runs apps would be perfect - Plex, Angry Birds, Facebook, etc.
 
Oyeve said:
I would hold off until at least 7 is out of beta or wait to see if other 4S users have issues. Some apps on my ios 7 ip5 dont work, but I didnt expect all to work in 24 hours.
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Totally agree. I am not installing a beta OS on my work issued phone (even though I could).
 
Just noticed reading the preview Anand did on the MBA that it has a PCIe SSD like the Mac Pro. Looked like performance was around 800mb/s.
 
ultimatebob said:
Yeah.... and where is the Apple Television already? 🙂
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Don't get upset people but I think Microsoft beat them to it with Kinect on Xbox One. I mean you can talk to it and wave your hands at it. That sounds like the better TV experience the Apple TV was to bring.


As for iOS 7 even on the 5 I would avoid it on a device you depend on for now. Maybe future betas and gradual app updates would make it more workable.
 
mchammer187 said:
Not a big fan of the new IOS icons. More the color palette than the look though. Other than that I like everything I see.
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Hah I knew something seemed off and glad things are going to change


http://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/12...arketing-team-in-charge-of-ios-7-icon-design/

The Next Web has given us a peek behind the scenes at the development of the new and controversial user interface in iOS 7.

One of the more revealing points in the piece is that Jony Ive, recently put in charge of software as well as hardware design, tapped Apple's marketing and communications team -- MarCom -- to design the look and feel of the icons. Then, with those as a guide, the iOS design teams went to work.

First of all, many of the new icons were primarily designed by members of Apple’s marketing and communications department, not the app design teams. From what we’ve heard, SVP of Design Jony Ive (also now Apple’s head of Human Interaction) brought the print and web marketing design team in to set the look and color palette of the stock app icons. They then handed those off to the app design teams who did their own work on the ‘interiors’, with those palettes as a guide.


The site goes on to note that the design is a "firmly a 'work in progress'", and that the look and feel of the icons and other new UI bits are likely to change significantly as the iOS 7 beta proceeds.
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Childs said:
Did anyone catch the URL of that website with the animated periodic table of elements? Looked kinda cool.

wwdcelements.png
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Childs, I tried to PM you, but this stupid forum does not allow me to do it until I have 25 posts, which may take years if ever for me!

Here ya go:

MrDoob Web Animated Periodic Table
http://mrdoob.github.io/three.js/examples/css3d_periodictable.html
 
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WWDC 2013 was the best Software show Ive seen from Apple. They finally went for performance and stability over form and new buttons. Mavericks absolutely looks marvelous in beta testing and so does iOS 7. Hopefully they can work out some more beta bugs before the GM release in a couple months.
 
Spicedaddy said:
Thanks, made me realize Windows 7 does the same thing as Mavericks. (CPU drops to 0% when hiding the window...) lol 😀
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The page won't load for me in IE8 and in Chrome even if I maximize something in front CPU usage stays high on Windows 8. CPU usage drops if I switch to another Chrome tab though.
 
Zink said:
The page won't load for me in IE8 and in Chrome even if I maximize something in front CPU usage stays high on Windows 8. CPU usage drops if I switch to another Chrome tab though.
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You're right, I'm using Chrome and was opening another tab or minimizing the window...
 
TridenT said:
No one bought the Mac Pro because they were looking for a desktop for surfing the web... They bought it because they're usually someone who is in some serious form of content creation.
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I got one because I was tired of dealing with external drives to store all of my photos. Photography is "content creation" of course, but not necessarily CPU intensive. I just needed the ability to have a few 2TB drives online and able to transfer files back and forth in a somewhat speedy manner. I also needed 2-monitor output. At the time, the Mac mini was not capable of that. Also I wanted at least 8GB of RAM, again not possible in a Mac mini at the time due to chipset limitations which set the max at 4GB.

Your "serious content creation" statement might be true in 2011-2013, but in, say, 2009 and earlier years, the Mac mini had some very serious limitations that could easily affect us mere "power users" (constant multi-taskers, running VMs continuously, etc.) and not just the hardcore "content creation" users.
 
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