WWATOT Do? Creepy burglar(?) event in my neighborhood

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z1ggy

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That's almost my exact plan should I go that route. Easy to lock up and something with a rail you can mount a light to. No problems with guns personally. Grew up with them all over the house. Just never felt like it was necessary where I was at plus having kids on the house was a concern.

Assuming you'll get the right safe, I'd suggest m&p9 full size, with the rail, no safety. That is what I have and I've put hundreds and hundreds of rounds through it, no failures of any type, and it feels about as good in the hand as the 2x more expensive H&K, SIG, etc.
 

clamum

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That's almost my exact plan should I go that route. Easy to lock up and something with a rail you can mount a light to. No problems with guns personally. Grew up with them all over the house. Just never felt like it was necessary where I was at plus having kids on the house was a concern.
I'd recommend a pistol and/or shotgun, and some TRAINING/PRACTICE. The former can be useless or outright dangerous without sufficient of the latter. Post in the "YAGT I love guns" thread and we'll help ya with any questions.
 

NuclearNed

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If your kids are ever home alone, you should probably have a talk with them about things like calling 911, getting out of the house & going to a neighbors (or whatever it is you want them to do if someone has broken in), etc.

Heck, I'd probably have that same talk with my wife, just for the sake of being prepared. Having a good plan that everyone knows is always a good thing.
 

vi edit

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If your kids are ever home alone, you should probably have a talk with them about things like calling 911, getting out of the house & going to a neighbors (or whatever it is you want them to do if someone has broken in), etc.

They are 3 & 7 so they are really never alone. The 911 thing is actually sort of interesting in the "cord cutting" age. We don't have a land line phone on the wall or even cordless ones in the house. My wife usually leaves her phone downstairs to charge. I do keep mine on the nightstand overnight. But the kids would have no idea how to call on them. It's not like the corded touch tone phones like I had hanging on the wall as a kid.
 
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What's up with all the gun talk OP stated he in not interested.
I second the motion activated flood lights.
It would be wise to get a wired phone. Honestly anyone with kids or elderly in the home should have a wired phone. Remember wireless 911 calls usually go to the state police.
 

nakedfrog

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Obviously I'd have shot him in the face, cut open his chest cavity, consumed his heart to add his power to my own, and then done a victory dance over the corpse. Same thing I always do.
 

NuclearNed

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Obviously I'd have shot him in the face, cut open his chest cavity, consumed his heart to add his power to my own, and then done a victory dance over the corpse. Same thing I always do.

Somewhere in there you have to urinate on him, or else you're just not doing it right.
 

l0cke

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They are 3 & 7 so they are really never alone. The 911 thing is actually sort of interesting in the "cord cutting" age. We don't have a land line phone on the wall or even cordless ones in the house. My wife usually leaves her phone downstairs to charge. I do keep mine on the nightstand overnight. But the kids would have no idea how to call on them. It's not like the corded touch tone phones like I had hanging on the wall as a kid.

Your landline phone carrier might support "soft" dial tones that still let you call 911 even if you don't have service. You could stop buy a thrift store and pick up some old phones if it does.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2009/05/update-about-911-and-disconnected-landlines/index.htm
 

MongGrel

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Murloc

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They are 3 & 7 so they are really never alone. The 911 thing is actually sort of interesting in the "cord cutting" age. We don't have a land line phone on the wall or even cordless ones in the house. My wife usually leaves her phone downstairs to charge. I do keep mine on the nightstand overnight. But the kids would have no idea how to call on them. It's not like the corded touch tone phones like I had hanging on the wall as a kid.
aren't you supposed to have a landline for the alarm? How does it call security?
 

Craig234

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Leave out sacrificial items for him to freely take, because clearly the poor man is just trying to feed his family and we should all be more understanding.

I'm not a fan of burglars, having have $5,000 of electronics taken in two burglaries by a sociopathic crack addict, but your sarcasm about the needy is scumbaggery.

Catch him. Jail him. But the fact is there are sad stories behind the burglars, that does nothing to make their burglary ok but a lot to deserve some sympathy for the problems.

Person who burglarized me ended up driving on drugs 5 months pregnant crashing on top of a truck in a driveway during a police chase in a stolen car. Sentenced to four years.

(Oh, ya, her record included robbery and car theft, as well as my car being stolen twice, as well as her stealing another car I got her jailed for separately - sadly only four months.

While we're at it, the guy whose car she stole that I got her jailed for admitted to me that he was her drug customer.

Same day she was with a girl she met in jail previously. I think she is a lot worse than even the typical burglar.

I'd say an over 99% chance she will quickly commit felonies when released, it's all she knows.

Sociopathic - she tried to con me that she knew me, and I got her fast food a few times out of charity and gave her a few rides, followed by her burglaries.)
 

NetWareHead

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Remington 870 pump action 12 guage shotgun. Load with double 0 buckshot

If you need to use the gun, aim for center chest mass and shoot more than once until threat is neutralized. Dont shoot a fleeing criminal in the back.

Shoot to kill, not to injure, so there is one only viable witness (you!)
 

sphenodont

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What kind of thief wears a Phantom of the Opera mask to a burglary?

Your neighbor probably caught his neighbor's lover sneaking out the back after some kinky roleplaying. Dude was probably literally out of fucks.
 

brainhulk

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Well since the theme is 80's musicals, dress up as cats and scare him away next time
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cbrunny

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AT obviously says MOAR GUNZ!

The rest of the world probably just calls the cops and keeps an eye on things for a while.
 

lxskllr

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Last time I thought I heard someone creeping around my house, I went out with a sword and checked things out. I'm pretty sure it was a cat hunting around my property :^D
 

Craig234

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gun access are certainly much better here.[/quote[

Well, that's a matter of opinion.

Have considered going with a handgun for home defense, but with two young children in the house (one of which that is too curious for her own good) it's not something I'm totally comfortable with.

Those statistics aren't going to fill themselves. Do your part. How about those guns requiring fingerprint or wristband to use? Oh wait, the gun lobby has prevented their sale?
 

Craig234

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I've had some crime. One night sitting here around 2AM, I saw a face appear in the window to my back yard peering inside my house.

I indicated I had seen him and to go around to the front. Surprisingly, he did. Not the safest thing but I talked to him and he made up a ridiculous story about trying to talk to the owner of a car
for sale and must have the wrong house.

Obviously, lying but what were the choices. I let him go (if I had a gun, I'd probably have detained him for police) and called the police.

If he had fled, I do not think it's right to shoot him in the back.

Another time, living on a 'closed street', after having been burglarized while sleeping, I saw a suspicious young guy on a bicycle who seemed to just be scouting houses. I asked him where he was going, he did not walk to talk. I got in my car and trailed him a few blocks, just to say, 'you are noticed'.

He was on his cell phone. Then, he stopped and I stopped and watched. A minute later, a guy around 40 arrived to meet him. He tried to act tough, but they left.

The next day, I had a knock on the door and a third person, a young guy with what looked like a gang jacket on, was on my porch and started screaming about how his friends had better be left alone, and I didn't know who I was dealing with, and that he was "Diablo". After a minute of that, he walked away. I called the cops.

I've learned there are whole networks of criminals who know each other and help each other. I could tell several more stories along those lines.