WTH...guy fired for leaving no tracks on his comp???

Gimli43Orcs

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Originally posted by: Meuge
It's a private company. They can do anything they want.


But you still need a legit reason for firing somebody. He was fired cuz there was no evidence???
 

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Why wouldn't they have the right to fire him? Unless part of his job was surfing the internet anonymously...
 

oddyager

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Originally posted by: Gimli43Orcs
Originally posted by: Meuge
It's a private company. They can do anything they want.


But you still need a legit reason for firing somebody. He was fired cuz there was no evidence???

He was fired for using that software.
 

GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: Gimli43Orcs
Originally posted by: Meuge
It's a private company. They can do anything they want.


But you still need a legit reason for firing somebody. He was fired cuz there was no evidence???

No, many companies do not need a legit reason for firing somebody.
 

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Clearly he was hiding something that he didn't want them to find.

Exactly what I was going to say.

You're not going to try hiding something that's not worth hiding.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: LoKe
Clearly he was hiding something that he didn't want them to find.

Exactly what I was going to say.

You're not going to try hiding something that's not worth hiding.

Bullshit. I use TrueCrypt to keep an encrypted partition with my "My Documents" folder, yet I have nothing incriminating there. The kind of thinking (or rather its absence) that you exhibited is going to lead us to a police state.
 

jonessoda

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He COULD have just been using the anonymizer because he didn't like being tracked. Maybe he figured that, although he couldn't do anything about CCTV surveillance, etc., he could put an anonymizer on his computer. Maybe he's a heavy internet privacy supporter.

It's BS, but it's their company, so they can fire him.
 

dds14u

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They probably should have gave him some kind of warning or offer him a period to get rid of the anonymizer before they took that kind of action.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: LoKe
Clearly he was hiding something that he didn't want them to find.

Exactly what I was going to say.

You're not going to try hiding something that's not worth hiding.

Bullshit. I use TrueCrypt to keep an encrypted partition with my "My Documents" folder, yet I have nothing incriminating there. The kind of thinking (or rather its absence) that you exhibited is going to lead us to a police state.

On your PC or your work PC?
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: LoKe
Clearly he was hiding something that he didn't want them to find.

Exactly what I was going to say.

You're not going to try hiding something that's not worth hiding.

Bullshit. I use TrueCrypt to keep an encrypted partition with my "My Documents" folder, yet I have nothing incriminating there. The kind of thinking (or rather its absence) that you exhibited is going to lead us to a police state.

On a business' computer systems, you stick to their guidelines or you get fired. Having something to hide is completely irrelevant in this case.
 

QED

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: LoKe
Clearly he was hiding something that he didn't want them to find.

Exactly what I was going to say.

You're not going to try hiding something that's not worth hiding.

Bullshit. I use TrueCrypt to keep an encrypted partition with my "My Documents" folder, yet I have nothing incriminating there. The kind of thinking (or rather its absence) that you exhibited is going to lead us to a police state.

On your PC or your work PC?


Yeah... why would you even need TrueCrypt on your "My Documents" folder on your work PC? :confused:
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: LoKe
Clearly he was hiding something that he didn't want them to find.

Exactly what I was going to say.

You're not going to try hiding something that's not worth hiding.

Bullshit. I use TrueCrypt to keep an encrypted partition with my "My Documents" folder, yet I have nothing incriminating there. The kind of thinking (or rather its absence) that you exhibited is going to lead us to a police state.

On a business' computer systems, you stick to their guidelines or you get fired. Having something to hide is completely irrelevant in this case.


Did they have a guideline that an anonymizer was against the rules? Seems unlikely.
 

Gimli43Orcs

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Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: Gimli43Orcs
Originally posted by: Meuge
It's a private company. They can do anything they want.


But you still need a legit reason for firing somebody. He was fired cuz there was no evidence???

No, many companies do not need a legit reason for firing somebody.

Umm..sure. Just be prepared for a costly wrongful dismissal suit

 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: Gimli43Orcs
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: Gimli43Orcs
Originally posted by: Meuge
It's a private company. They can do anything they want.


But you still need a legit reason for firing somebody. He was fired cuz there was no evidence???

No, many companies do not need a legit reason for firing somebody.

Umm..sure. Just be prepared for a costly wrongful dismissal suit

If it is in an "at-will" state...not likely.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: Gimli43Orcs
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: Gimli43Orcs
Originally posted by: Meuge
It's a private company. They can do anything they want.


But you still need a legit reason for firing somebody. He was fired cuz there was no evidence???

No, many companies do not need a legit reason for firing somebody.

Umm..sure. Just be prepared for a costly wrongful dismissal suit

You can leave for any reason, why can't they fire you? Unless their practices are discriminatory (they fire based on race, sex, or some other factor that has nothing to do with the ability to do the work required), there's little recourse you as an employee have.
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: Gimli43Orcs
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: Gimli43Orcs
Originally posted by: Meuge
It's a private company. They can do anything they want.


But you still need a legit reason for firing somebody. He was fired cuz there was no evidence???

No, many companies do not need a legit reason for firing somebody.

Umm..sure. Just be prepared for a costly wrongful dismissal suit

Not likely, in fact they would be far more likely to get sued (or more correctly LOSE a lawsuit) if they gave cause than if they simply dismiss you for no cause at all.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Gimli43Orcs
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: Gimli43Orcs
Originally posted by: Meuge
It's a private company. They can do anything they want.


But you still need a legit reason for firing somebody. He was fired cuz there was no evidence???

No, many companies do not need a legit reason for firing somebody.

Umm..sure. Just be prepared for a costly wrongful dismissal suit

Incorrect. Unless your firing can be tied to discrimination against a protected class (race, sex, age, etc), they can do whatever they want... including firing you because you're too fugly to look at.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: yowolabi
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: supafly
Originally posted by: LoKe
Clearly he was hiding something that he didn't want them to find.

Exactly what I was going to say.

You're not going to try hiding something that's not worth hiding.

Bullshit. I use TrueCrypt to keep an encrypted partition with my "My Documents" folder, yet I have nothing incriminating there. The kind of thinking (or rather its absence) that you exhibited is going to lead us to a police state.

On a business' computer systems, you stick to their guidelines or you get fired. Having something to hide is completely irrelevant in this case.


Did they have a guideline that an anonymizer was against the rules? Seems unlikely.

Use of unauthorized software. That little clause is written into pretty much any network policy I have ever read as a catch-all.
 

Zach

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Originally posted by: yowolabi


Did they have a guideline that an anonymizer was against the rules? Seems unlikely.

It's almost certain if the company knew anything about IT. There was probably clauses stating that PC's would be for business use only, therefore any software installed must be specifially allowed or meeting a business requirement.

Plus, stuff like that software is often only free for personal use, so he could have been violating the license.


Edit: Beat by BigJ.. :p