These laws have gotten absolutely absurd. It's fucking alcohol. It's a legal form of ID. A passport should be no problem whatsoever. But yeah, a lot of places around here (Dave and Buster's in Particular) won't even accept out-of state driver's licenses. Only in-state DL's are valid forms of ID. SO they won't sell alcohol to tourists? It's a joke. WTF is wrong with our society? OH NOES! Not teh alchol!
yeah, i've had trouble buying a drink with my passport because they said it didnt have a physical description of me on it...
Good God. I can't believe they do this. Getting a passport is much harder than getting a license or a state ID. Look at how they issue state IDs away to illegals. WTF mang? When you get a job, a license is not good enough. You need to bring in secondary proof and that's birth cert or passport.
I think people are just anal about the passport when it should trump the driver's license anyday.
I don't get how people have a passport on them but not a license/state ID. I can understand if you're not from the US but I keep my passport locked up at home. Why the hell would it be on my car unless I plan on driving to Canada or Mexico?
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Originally posted by: Homerboy
He has the right to refuse service to anyone he wants. Good for the bartender. I wouldn't server a Canadian either
Ah, but would you admin a server in Canada?
OH NOES!!! THE TYPO!
QUICK FIX IT BEFORE TEH ATOT CRASHES!!!
OutHouse
Lifer
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Originally posted by: Injury
The Ohio DMV would not let me renew my license with one... my options were SS card, Birth Certificate or previous state-issued license (neither of which are a photo ID!). Was told by some people from out of town "Duh."
Ok, i believe you but its fricken stupid.
A passport is a primary form of ID everywhere I've been, including the DMV. I admit that I haven't tried every DMV, but where do you get your info?
MrDudeMan
Lifer
- Jan 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Injury
The Ohio DMV would not let me renew my license with one... my options were SS card, Birth Certificate or previous state-issued license (neither of which are a photo ID!). Was told by some people from out of town "Duh."
Ok, i believe you but its fricken stupid.
I agree it is stupid as well. Here in Fort Collins I was sent home from the DMV to get my SS card or birth certificate in addition to my license. They wouldn't accept my passport regardless if it is valid or not. It royally pissed me off since I called ahead of time and specifically asked if my passport was valid and they said yes. I show up, get my ticket, wait in line for 2.5 hours, and was then refused service and had to come back another day to get my CO license because I only had my TN license and passport. Damn it.
My friend (not American) was denied entry in a bar because he only had his passport and International license. They asked for a US license... Dumbasses..
I think this rule just encourages fake IDs. How is a tourist supposed to get a US license?
I think this rule just encourages fake IDs. How is a tourist supposed to get a US license?
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Injury
The Ohio DMV would not let me renew my license with one... my options were SS card, Birth Certificate or previous state-issued license (neither of which are a photo ID!). Was told by some people from out of town "Duh."
Ok, i believe you but its fricken stupid.
I didn't believe him, so I checked. Ohio's Laws and Rules: 4501:1-1-21 Acceptable identification to be submitted along with an application for a driver's license, commercial driver's license, and identification card.
AbAbber2k
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I was with a friend from Puerto Rico who wasn't allowed into a bar, and she had her PR drivers license. And then last year I went to a bar with about 10 Japanese exchange students who were all let in with their Passports.
I love my country... but it can be pretty fucking stupid sometimes.
I love my country... but it can be pretty fucking stupid sometimes.
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
I can understand the problem with ID in bars though - your average bouncer is, well, (apologies to anyone who's a bouncer) not the brightest person around. Way back when I was underaged, I used to give my real ID to a bouncer at the bar in the college town I attended. He put it up to the black light, held it up to another really bright light, looked to see if it was chalked, made sure the photo matched me several times, then finally let me in. He never figured out that by the date on the license, I was underaged.
I can't imagine how confused he would have gotten had I handed him a passport, which he possibly may have never seen before in his life. (Back in the 80's, legal drinking age was 18, then 19, before finally turning 21. Putting "under 21" on driver's licenses hadn't been thought of yet.)
Oh, and I can understand a bouncer/bartender not being able to figure it out, but it seems that the people at the DMV should be more on the ball. (Or BMV for the fancy Ohioans who prefer "bureau" over "department")
I can't imagine how confused he would have gotten had I handed him a passport, which he possibly may have never seen before in his life. (Back in the 80's, legal drinking age was 18, then 19, before finally turning 21. Putting "under 21" on driver's licenses hadn't been thought of yet.)
Oh, and I can understand a bouncer/bartender not being able to figure it out, but it seems that the people at the DMV should be more on the ball. (Or BMV for the fancy Ohioans who prefer "bureau" over "department")
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Apologies for my incoherent post.
I did become a tad bit tipsy after a couple beers. I also was in a mad rush to type, chug down the remaining beer, no sleep, and pack up my laptop so I wouldn't be late for my flight. Didn't matter anyways, the delayed flight made me miss my connection. I hate United airlines...
heh..my OP still isn't ordered well, but at least it's a lot better now, haha. I noticed that I omitted a lot of words that I wanted to add in when I generated the sentences, but I suppose I forgot to type them down. I do that a lot; I'd type down a sentence, and forget to type in words. During that process, I'd remember typing in that word when in actually I didn't. Bleh, silly brain, playing tricks on me.
yep..stuck in good ole San Fransisco (about to hit the BART and hit up a bar or two...). United Airlines lost my baggage, and the flight was delayed a combined 3 hours, making me lose my connection to Japan. Great... heh.
I suppose it makes it a lot easier on the employees since they have a set criteria to check the IDs, however I couldn't agree with the bartender, especially since the lady looked nowhere near her 20's. Well, in fact, he was carding people during that whole time I was there. At first, I thought it was just a joke he was playing on people until that lady came in to grab a beer.
Oh, and Carl Strauss' Red Trolley is really good. You guys should try it.
I did become a tad bit tipsy after a couple beers. I also was in a mad rush to type, chug down the remaining beer, no sleep, and pack up my laptop so I wouldn't be late for my flight. Didn't matter anyways, the delayed flight made me miss my connection. I hate United airlines...
heh..my OP still isn't ordered well, but at least it's a lot better now, haha. I noticed that I omitted a lot of words that I wanted to add in when I generated the sentences, but I suppose I forgot to type them down. I do that a lot; I'd type down a sentence, and forget to type in words. During that process, I'd remember typing in that word when in actually I didn't. Bleh, silly brain, playing tricks on me.
yep..stuck in good ole San Fransisco (about to hit the BART and hit up a bar or two...). United Airlines lost my baggage, and the flight was delayed a combined 3 hours, making me lose my connection to Japan. Great... heh.
I suppose it makes it a lot easier on the employees since they have a set criteria to check the IDs, however I couldn't agree with the bartender, especially since the lady looked nowhere near her 20's. Well, in fact, he was carding people during that whole time I was there. At first, I thought it was just a joke he was playing on people until that lady came in to grab a beer.
Oh, and Carl Strauss' Red Trolley is really good. You guys should try it.
BoomerD
No Lifer
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Kahleeforneeya's Alcohol Control Board runs lots of stings on sellers of liquor, so I don't blame them for carding everyone. Here's what the state law (ABC) says about ID:
25660. (a) Bona fide evidence of majority and identity of the
person is a document issued by a federal, state, county, or municipal
government, or subdivision or agency thereof, including, but not
limited to, a motor vehicle operator's license or an identification
card issued to a member of the Armed Forces, that contains the name,
date of birth, description, and picture of the person."
You'd certainly think that a passport would be sufficient identification, but, perhaps it's the company policy not to serve without a valid driver's license or other US issued ID...(seems rather odd in an airport though...)
25660. (a) Bona fide evidence of majority and identity of the
person is a document issued by a federal, state, county, or municipal
government, or subdivision or agency thereof, including, but not
limited to, a motor vehicle operator's license or an identification
card issued to a member of the Armed Forces, that contains the name,
date of birth, description, and picture of the person."
You'd certainly think that a passport would be sufficient identification, but, perhaps it's the company policy not to serve without a valid driver's license or other US issued ID...(seems rather odd in an airport though...)
I was at the Sacramento airport and one of the restuarants was carding everybody regardless of how old or young they looked. Seems the "no tolerance" mindset has crept into carding people. It does strike me as absurd not to accept a passport as a valid proof of age. Heck I don't even know if that is legal, it obviously discrimates against foreigners. In the European Union a passport is probably the most common form of ID used.
I kid you not, I went their to replace & renew my license with my passport and I was told that I could not use that, and was subsequently told my friends in neighboring states that passports are apparently useless when you are inside the country. I used what I experienced. The written law might be different, but hell hath no fury like an angered DMV/BMV agent. Judging from this thread, there are load of people in the country that have apparently never seen a passport and will reject it out of ignorance.
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