WTF?? NVIDIA to Rejoin 3DMark Beta Program

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Does NE1 even care anymore?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/display/20030715015248.html

It's nvidia's cash under the table to futuremark for saying that clipping planes were not obivous cheats.

futuremark obviously has no integrity, but that doesn't excuse nvidia's cheating or their latest ploy of encrypting their drivers to make it harder for people to detect and show their cheating in specific games like UT2003.

It doesn't excuse ATI's shader cheat in 3Dmark either, but ATI's been much more honest than nvidia this year since they haven't neded to cheat to conceal the flaws of underperforming products.

Hopefully with nv40 nvidia will be competitive again and not need to spend so much effort on lying to consumers. My geforce3 is a great card and I'd love to replace it with a fx6xxx that smokes a 9800 pro without uprooting trees.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: NFS4
Does NE1 even care anymore?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/display/20030715015248.html

It's nvidia's cash under the table to futuremark for saying that clipping planes were not obivous cheats.

futuremark obviously has no integrity, but that doesn't excuse nvidia's cheating or their latest ploy of encrypting their drivers to make it harder for people to detect and show their cheating in specific games like UT2003.

It doesn't excuse ATI's shader cheat in 3Dmark either, but ATI's been much more honest than nvidia this year since they haven't neded to cheat to conceal the flaws of underperforming products.

Hopefully with nv40 nvidia will be competitive again and not need to spend so much effort on lying to consumers. My geforce3 is a great card and I'd love to replace it with a fx6xxx that smokes a 9800 pro without uprooting trees.

that would be expected since the nv40 is supposed to compete agains the r400 😛

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Hopefully with nv40 nvidia will be competitive again and not need to spend so much effort on lying to consumers. My geforce3 is a great card and I'd love to replace it with a fx6xxx that smokes a 9800 pro without uprooting trees.

that would be expected since the nv40 is supposed to compete agains the r400 😛

Well yeah, but the fx5800 "dustbuster" was supposed to bury the 9700 and the fx5900 was supposed to beat down the 9800, neither of which has happened in honest benchmarks.

The 9800 is fast enough for HL2 and Doom3, so if nvidia does their job halfway right with the nv40 then the new cards should convincingly beat the 9800 and that's good enough for me.

But you're right, for marketing's sake they need to beat the r400. If they can't do it honestly I'm afraid they may continue to pile on the cheats to "win" any way they can.

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
The 9800 is fast enough for HL2 and Doom3, so if nvidia does their job halfway right with the nv40 then the new cards should convincingly beat the 9800 and that's good enough for me.

But you're right, for marketing's sake they need to beat the r400. If they can't do it honestly I'm afraid they may continue to pile on the cheats to "win" any way they can.

Never mind the 9800s, the 9700s and to a lesser extent, the 95/9600s are more than capible of rendering games, at decent quality settings and resolutions without slowdown, for sometime to come.

 

[BenSkywalker]

that would be expected since the nv40 is supposed to compete agains the r400

According to ATi's and nVidia's roadmaps, the NV40 should hit about six months prior to the R400, the NV45 is supposed to be making its debut around the time the R400 hits. The R9900 is likely to be the NV40's direct competitor.